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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Can someone explain to me the attraction of wireless keyboards? I get wireless mice: they're much easier to reposition - but my keyboard stays in one place all the time. Do other people move their keyboards repeatedly?

1) less wires 2) offices where you don't have set desks 3) easily swapping between computers without a kvm

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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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post #93
post #87

Can someone explain to me the attraction of wireless keyboards? I get wireless mice: they're much easier to reposition - but my keyboard stays in one place all the time. Do other people move their keyboards repeatedly?

1) less wires 2) offices where you don't have set desks 3) easily swapping between computers without a kvm

Isn't it easier to unplug and plug the cable into a different computer rather than messing with Bluetooth settings until it connects?

Edit: Never mind, it looks like the keyboard can connect to multiple devices at a time. That's really cool.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles

"Easily pair via Bluetooth® Low Energy or the included Logi Bolt USB Receiver..."

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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What's the logic of using a tiny 40% keyboard like the guy uses in that blog post? Just adding effort to add additional keys using capslock.

I can understand why people use 60/70% keyboards. I personally couldn't give up the numpad, home/end/pgup/pgdown/arrow keys for it, but there's definitely something to be said for the comfort level of having the mouse less far off from the keyboard. I think once you're into anything less than 60%, either you literally just type text and use the mouse/touchpad items instead of keyboard shortcuts, or you're more focuse…

Having done both, "the mouse goes on the left" is a far easier change to make than learning a minimised keyboard layout.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Second, I love this keyboard, but it isn't wireless, which I think is a fair requirement. I personally like my keyboards to be wired, but can see why someone might seek out something like the Logitech keyboard. Even with the browns, in a quiet office full of laptop keyboard users, any mechanical keyboard is going to seem loud. Mechanical keyboards always had the multiple benefits for me of: 1) more like the thing I g…

> but it isn't wireless, which I think is a fair requirement I don't see how this is a fair requirement. Most people would rather NOT be one 0day RF side-channel attack or bluetooth link key compromise away from someone outside their house with a high-gain antenna grabbing their LUKS or ssh key passphrases. KeySniffer II is a question of when, not if.

"Most people" don't have LUKS or SSH key passphrases.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Second, I love this keyboard, but it isn't wireless, which I think is a fair requirement. I personally like my keyboards to be wired, but can see why someone might seek out something like the Logitech keyboard. Even with the browns, in a quiet office full of laptop keyboard users, any mechanical keyboard is going to seem loud. Mechanical keyboards always had the multiple benefits for me of: 1) more like the thing I g…

> but it isn't wireless, which I think is a fair requirement I don't see how this is a fair requirement. Most people would rather NOT be one 0day RF side-channel attack or bluetooth link key compromise away from someone outside their house with a high-gain antenna grabbing their LUKS or ssh key passphrases. KeySniffer II is a question of when, not if.

That's not a realistic threat model for most people.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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You would think. The most annoying piece of hardware I have is a Microsoft wireless mouse which, while it's physically fine, goes to sleep very quickly and takes roughly a second to wake up when you move it. It's pretty much unusable as a result. Which is disappointing, because MS hardware generally is pretty good, but I guess everyone misses sometimes.

>because MS hardware generally is pretty good After a couple years of supporting Surface devices, I have very different views in this regard.

I was more thinking peripherals. The Natural keyboard line and their cheap mice were always just rock solid. Admittedly I've not been in the market for them for a while so I don't know what the latest models are like, but I did find the irony that a software company's best products were its hardware ones rather delicious.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can understand why people use 60/70% keyboards. I personally couldn't give up the numpad, home/end/pgup/pgdown/arrow keys for it, but there's definitely something to be said for the comfort level of having the mouse less far off from the keyboard. I think once you're into anything less than 60%, either you literally just type text and use the mouse/touchpad items instead of keyboard shortcuts, or you're more focuse…

Having done both, "the mouse goes on the left" is a far easier change to make than learning a minimised keyboard layout.

So my mouse is _very_ right handed. I have some smaller symmetrical mice that are less comfortable. I'm curious how this change worked for you - Did you get a leftie mouse? Did you swap the buttons?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Note that this appears to use the Logi Bolt receiver, not the typical Unifying receiver - so you might end up with 2 dongles (a unifying and a bolt) Be aware that Logitech now has 3 wireless technologies: Unifying - the original 2.4 wireless, supports up to 6 devices. Symbol - Orange square with black or white six-pointed snowflake Logi Bolt - the new encrypted version of their unifying controller, also supports up t…

For anyone thinking of using this with Linux, there are a couple of issues I've encountered with Logi Bolt with my MX Keys Mini. Getting the keyboard and a Logi Bolt USB receiver to pair on Linux was a huge PITA. (Why do I have to trust and install an app for this anyway?) In the end I resorted to plugging the receiver into a mac and pairing it that way. Even that hasn't worked out so well though, since I ended up wi…

In case you still use the keyboard, you may be able to solve the wakeup issue by preventing the wakeup in /proc/acpi/wakeup - see (1). When I used a Surface Go 2, this was how I prevented the keyboard case from waking it up and draining the battery.

1: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/power-management-acpi-wake-u...

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Having done both, "the mouse goes on the left" is a far easier change to make than learning a minimised keyboard layout.

So my mouse is _very_ right handed. I have some smaller symmetrical mice that are less comfortable. I'm curious how this change worked for you - Did you get a leftie mouse? Did you swap the buttons?

Symmetrical mouse, no button swaps. I'm currently using one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073WGB8G6 but I first started doing it with a cheapy Microsoft wired mouse.
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