Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point of GDPR is to smack companies that fail to meet it hard on the nose, so hard, in fact, that it might break. The maximum penalty is 2% of yearly turnover. That's hurtful even to megacorps. No one, not even them, needs a broken nose.
In theory yes, but so far they haven't brought the hammer onto anyone of formidable size.
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#23Users loved it and expressed their delight that the website exists on a daily basis.
But when I tried to monetize it without ads and via Patreon instead, nobody paid. Nobody.
Recently, Google said they don't think my cookie banner is GDPR conform. But gave no info why and how I could fix it. And turned off Adsense.
So I finally took the plunge and turned the site off.
My feeling is that the GDPR plays into the hands of the big web players. They have the resources to deal with it. While small one-man shows don't.
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#24Honestly, never saw the point of GDPR. You add additional expenses for something big abusers will just bypass, ignore or even worse just retract from the market.
Well the idea is that with proper enforcement the big abusers shouldn't be able to bypass it. The legislation itself is sane, it's just that enforcement is lacking. > even worse just retract from the market I disagree that this is worse - if privacy-violating monopolies retract from the market then it opens the doors for privacy-respecting competition to take its place.
On paper yes, great intentions[1], in practice no. E.g. Right to be forgotten.
Implement RTBF in context of IPFS.
[1] Second order effects like prevent rats/snakes by awarding award for rat/snake heads, lead to rat/snake farms.
> if privacy-violating monopolies retract from the market
You get Splinternet. Several independent Internets, walled from each other.
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#25Honestly, never saw the point of GDPR. You add additional expenses for something big abusers will just bypass, ignore or even worse just retract from the market.
GDPR also opened the door for the eprivacy directive that brought us cookie law
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#27Honestly, never saw the point of GDPR. You add additional expenses for something big abusers will just bypass, ignore or even worse just retract from the market.
> even worse just retract from the market This is like saying that regulating damage to the environment is bad because would make businesses that can't exist without doing said damage would retract from the market. Good riddance, if a business can't or isn't willing to protect EU's citizens data they should go away, like many polluting industries that had to adapt or die.
Sure if a global problem is only taken by a small subset of states. It's not solving a problem just essentially grandstanding. See climate change.
But GDPR and related laws have been a mixed bag and a combination of neat and "why the hell do you think that will work?".
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#28Cookie banner has ruined the whole web. - Does not protect people (99% are just fake. If you reject cookies you keep get them) - Cost money to company (so cost to customers). A simpler browser extension where you manage your preference once far all (default) with the possibility to personilize x site (think like you do for camera permission) would have solved the problem in a real way and without all the hussle.
4 years on, and people still think GDPR is about cookies – and even responsible for the intrusive consent pop-ups!
It is a testament to the power of the adtech giants and all the other shitty shady businesses, how they managed to twist the narrative.
And that's on HN, a presumably tech savvy audience. What chance does the "normal" population stand?
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#29GDPR broke one of my websites that had tens of thousands of happy users. Users loved it and expressed their delight that the website exists on a daily basis. But when I tried to monetize it without ads and via Patreon instead, nobody paid. Nobody. Recently, Google said they don't think my cookie banner is GDPR conform. But gave no info why and how I could fix it. And turned off Adsense. So I finally took the plunge a…
Re: Statement on 4 Years of GDPR
#30GDPR broke one of my websites that had tens of thousands of happy users. Users loved it and expressed their delight that the website exists on a daily basis. But when I tried to monetize it without ads and via Patreon instead, nobody paid. Nobody. Recently, Google said they don't think my cookie banner is GDPR conform. But gave no info why and how I could fix it. And turned off Adsense. So I finally took the plunge a…
GDPR aside, I had similar shock after getting a few million users for a viral language game, but finding that basically nobody was willing to sponsor it on Patreon, even to a level to cover the basic hosting costs. It was a little hard to process at the time.
Maybe it's easier to sell merch.