Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash • Hacker News Board

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by rick888 » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 3:35 PM UTC

yardie wrote: post #9

[deleted] wrote: post #5

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First they laugh at you.......................then you win.

I suppose if "you win" means a jail sentence, then yes.

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by battlebee » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 3:46 PM UTC

gldalmaso wrote: post #3

It impresses me just how much combined effort is being put towards boycoting transparency, just on the grounds that the powers that be are embaressed by their ugly operations.

Except that people in the State Department are actually pretty pleased with how they appear in the cables.

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by raganwald » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 3:49 PM UTC

rick888 wrote: post #11

yardie wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First they laugh at you.......................then you win.

I suppose if "you win" means a jail sentence, then yes.

Is that what you have to say about King, Ghandi, Castro, and Mandela (amongst others)?

I am not equating Assange with these folks, but I am using their jail sentences to suggest that while going to jail is not winning, it certainly doesn’t preclude winning later on. If anything, it may indicate that they are doing something to endanger the status quo, which is a necessary precondition of winning.

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by turing » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 3:53 PM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #2

Maybe they'd have fewer problems if they you know, actually released stuff?

Yup, I'm sure the banking blockade came about because the banks thought WikiLeaks was releasing too little information.

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by cube13 » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 4:02 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #4

I'd be interested in Wikileaks providing a rundown on what they spend their money on. Every cent might be in the direct pursuit of free information but I worry that isn't the case.

I would love to see that as well, and it would make me much more comfortable with donating to them if I knew that my money was going directly towards supporting their operations(which I support), instead of Assange(whom I do not).

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by amritsharma » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 4:03 PM UTC

You know we've turned a very dangerous corner when the 'land of the free' is choking the free flow of information.

http://www.wikileaks.org/support

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by __alexs » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 4:04 PM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #2

Maybe they'd have fewer problems if they you know, actually released stuff?

Assange claims they are being blackmailed by BoA in addition to financial blockade which is party of why there haven't been more releases lately.

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by knowtheory » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 4:06 PM UTC

cube13 wrote: post #15

untog wrote: post #4

I'd be interested in Wikileaks providing a rundown on what they spend their money on. Every cent might be in the direct pursuit of free information but I worry that isn't the case.

I would love to see that as well, and it would make me much more comfortable with donating to them if I knew that my money was going directly towards supporting their operations(which I support), instead of Assange(whom I do not).

The real question is how many documents they've taken in.

The impression i was left with over the split between Wikileaks and OpenLeaks (and incidentally here's link to open leaks: http://openleaks.org/ ) was that WikiLeaks was left w/o any infrastructure to accept new documents, making it, effectively, useless.

I am not going to donate to Julian Assange's defense, as i think he's destroyed Wikileaks' credibility and capability to continue operating.

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by palish » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 4:16 PM UTC

knowtheory wrote: post #18

cube13 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love to see that as well, and it would make me much more comfortable with donating to them if I knew that my money was going directly towards supporting their operations(which I support), instead of Assange(whom I do not).

The real question is how many documents they've taken in. The impression i was left with over the split between Wikileaks and OpenLeaks (and incidentally here's link to open leaks: http://openleaks.org/ ) was that WikiLeaks was left w/o any infrastructure to accept new documents, making it, effectively, useless. I am not going to donate to Julian Assange's defense, as i think he's destroyed Wikileaks' credibility and…

> I am not going to donate to Julian Assange's defense, as i think he's destroyed Wikileaks' credibility and capability to continue operating.

I completely missed any recent news regarding Assange... do you mind expanding on your reasons? I'm really interested.

Re: Wikileaks Is Running Out Of Cash

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Post by __alexs » Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 4:22 PM UTC

palish wrote: post #19

knowtheory wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real question is how many documents they've taken in. The impression i was left with over the split between Wikileaks and OpenLeaks (and incidentally here's link to open leaks: http://openleaks.org/ ) was that WikiLeaks was left w/o any infrastructure to accept new documents, making it, effectively, useless. I am not going to donate to Julian Assange's defense, as i think he's destroyed Wikileaks' credibility and…

> I am not going to donate to Julian Assange's defense, as i think he's destroyed Wikileaks' credibility and capability to continue operating. I completely missed any recent news regarding Assange... do you mind expanding on your reasons? I'm really interested.

Presumably the part where he is was at best a complete douchebag to several women, and at worst raped someone.