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Finland’s Green Party endorses nuclear power

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Fusion is trivial freshman physics. It is just plasma heated up. Kids play with plasma lamps as toys. Getting energy from it is just as simple as hooking it up to a steam engine.

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There is not need to transport hydrogen when it can be made right on the spot where it is needed. Cost of green hydrogen is in free fall, just like all storage media, as factories ramp up.

It has a lot of distance to fall before it becomes economical viable.

It pleases you to believe so, but as was the case for solar PV, wind turbines, and batteries before it, literally all hydrogen electrolysis needs now is manufacturing volume.

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Now fossil industry looooves new nuke projects, because they divert money from renewables for at least a decade until they are finally cancelled.

Any source this actually happened?

Literally every time. Except not always cancelled.

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What you wrote does not make sense.

OK, we can see in winter this storage put to good use then and in spring you can be happy proving me wrong with statistics that show that in fact Germany managed to replae all gas and nuclear production with solar and batteries.

Solar and wind have been and are being built out. Dropping that to start nukes and wait 10-20 years for any power at all would be strictly worse.

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OK, we can see in winter this storage put to good use then and in spring you can be happy proving me wrong with statistics that show that in fact Germany managed to replae all gas and nuclear production with solar and batteries.

Solar and wind have been and are being built out. Dropping that to start nukes and wait 10-20 years for any power at all would be strictly worse.

Nobody is asking for stopping building solar or wind, why do you think this is what we are discussing? (it is about some complementary energy source that will help when there is no sun and wind for a few days)

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It has a lot of distance to fall before it becomes economical viable.

It pleases you to believe so, but as was the case for solar PV, wind turbines, and batteries before it, literally all hydrogen electrolysis needs now is manufacturing volume.

If your crystal ball has made you so convinced then put your money where your mouth is. Go out and start producing green hydrogen for power and try compete on the open energy market. 10x more expensive than nuclear is sure to be a winner.

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It pleases you to believe so, but as was the case for solar PV, wind turbines, and batteries before it, literally all hydrogen electrolysis needs now is manufacturing volume.

If your crystal ball has made you so convinced then put your money where your mouth is. Go out and start producing green hydrogen for power and try compete on the open energy market. 10x more expensive than nuclear is sure to be a winner.

You only wish it was 10x.

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Solar and wind have been and are being built out. Dropping that to start nukes and wait 10-20 years for any power at all would be strictly worse.

Nobody is asking for stopping building solar or wind, why do you think this is what we are discussing? (it is about some complementary energy source that will help when there is no sun and wind for a few days)

Money is fungible. A dollar spent on a nuke is a dollar not available to spend on building out renewables.

Germany wisely chose to build out renewables, in preference to spending those dollars propping up those ramshackle old nukes.

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