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Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by notdarkyet »

wly_cdgr wrote: post #97

Go get your MS/PhD. By the time you finish, the market will be stronger, and so will your resume The Georgia Tech online MS is good and about $7k total. You can pay for it working at Starbucks

For the Georgia Tech online MS, what does the process look like? If you wanted to, could you accelerate the timeline (instead of 2-3 years part time)? That is, take multiple classes at once? Are the lectures prerecorded and you only need to complete the required coursework and lectures or are you required to pace at the same time as a traditional degree?

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by pcthrowaway »

deeptote wrote: post #137
beranabus wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does one get to the point where they get so much inquiries?

It's not about being talented, that's for sure :)

Though I doubt you'd pass an interview at any of the companies you listed without being talented (in interview skills anyway)

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by llamataboot »

The job market is still about as hot as I've ever seen it as a senior engineer - I don't know what it looks like for juniors these days, but I know a lot of places are hiring a lot of people and some have been trying for over a year now to fill positions.

I think probably startups will take a hit, but there are plenty of places that pay well and do good things and need coders.

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by ushakov »

tmaly wrote: post #39

I had a full signed offer to join large semiconductor company designing chips back in 2001. I found out on slashdot before the call that they were giving people a choice to take a payout or take your chance looking for a job within the company. This was during the dotcom crash. The best advice I can give you is to keep developing skills that are in demand. Keep building things. Keep networking. You will find somethin…

100%

and even better:

- focus on developing skills that are transferable, not unique to a particular project or companies

- work on your own projects, always, because when you're an employee you trade your time, mental space and your work for inflationary cash

you deserve better than this

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by ineptech »

twblalock wrote: post #151
ineptech wrote: post #121

If you want to be recession-proof, get a job at a non-software company (or in academia, state/city government, etc). In theory, "programmer" is the same job whether you work for a startup or the Minnesota Dept. of Transportation, but in practice they feel like completely different industries. In one, you can make fantastic money but the interviews are famously difficult, the culture can be borderline abusive, and lay…

> In one, you can make fantastic money but the interviews are famously difficult, the culture can be borderline abusive, and layoffs are a way of life. These generalizations are untrue for a lot of companies, and for a lot of teams. Software companies, even FAANGs, can be very relaxed and comfortable places to work. It all really depends on the team -- and you can end up with an abusive boss in any industry. Job secu…

Of course these are generalizations. "All models are wrong, but some are useful." I'm sure there are some laid-back jobs at startups and some stressful jobs at the Minnesota Dept. of Transportation, but I also think it is generally fair to say that those are less common than the opposite.

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by xxr »

twblalock wrote: post #113
michaelrpeskin wrote: post #98

I bet the non-profitable, feeding-on-VC startups are getting worried and we'll see more of this. I work at a non-VC-funded, profitable, stable, small place and we're desperately trying to hire. I've never made FAANG/startup income, and I've always felt a little left-out because of that. But we've been stable for nearly 30 years, and have never had the big layoffs or hiring freezes including, dot-com bust, 2008, 2020…

FAANGs are slowing down and freezing hiring too. It's not just startups that are worried.

I imagine that FAANGs are sensitive to offering higher and higher proportions of equity pools to keep up with total comp expectations.

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by barbazoo »

twblalock wrote: post #113
michaelrpeskin wrote: post #98

I bet the non-profitable, feeding-on-VC startups are getting worried and we'll see more of this. I work at a non-VC-funded, profitable, stable, small place and we're desperately trying to hire. I've never made FAANG/startup income, and I've always felt a little left-out because of that. But we've been stable for nearly 30 years, and have never had the big layoffs or hiring freezes including, dot-com bust, 2008, 2020…

FAANGs are slowing down and freezing hiring too. It's not just startups that are worried.

I hope the 3-5 emails a week from recruiters hiring for Amazon will stop then.

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by ushakov »

ModernMech wrote: post #55
rzazueta wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with the poster above this one - 2020 and now are basically one big event, but I still mark 2020 because it was the point when I finally decided enough was enough with this hiring BS these companies put us through. You spend weeks in in the interview process, meeting everyone and their cousin, taking dumb little tests and such, all so that, right near the end, they can say the job is no longer available becau…

> taking dumb little tests and such I once had a company ask me to do a math test after I had already done their phone screen, coding interview, and day-long on-site interview. Like, they wanted to test my knowledge of trigonometry. That was 2018 but also the moment I decided I was done with that BS.

i have a more ridiculous one

a company once wanted me to do HackerRank after they invited me to work on essentially a copy of my open source project

i was like: "you know i've done the same thing before, right?"

they never responded

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by ghaff »

ramesh31 wrote: post #101
bergenty wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t that pretty great? Get paid for 6 months of relatively light ramp up time and then a few months worth of severance for some time off once fired?

>Isn’t that pretty great? Get paid for 6 months of relatively light ramp up time and then a few months worth of severance for some time off once fired? Nah that'll torch your resume for years. Unless you're a total rockstar otherwise, I'd be terrified to explain a 6 month stint.

As a one-off, during a rocky economic time? Not really. And I say that as someone who has mostly (except during dot-com) long employment times.

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by vmception »

barbazoo wrote: post #177
twblalock wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FAANGs are slowing down and freezing hiring too. It's not just startups that are worried.

I hope the 3-5 emails a week from recruiters hiring for Amazon will stop then.

In 2008, Goldman Sachs had their M&A department come in as usual, working on deals all day. They didn't close a single deal in over a year. (This is hearsay, btw)

So with that being the only anecdotal data point I have, the emails won't stop until the recruiters become fewer.

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