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Re: YouTubeDrive: Store files as YouTube videos

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You could make it much harder to detect by synthesizing a unique video with a DNN and hiding the data using traditional stenography techniques.

I think that video compression might make this not a viable technique. Artifacts would destroy the hidden data, right?

Couldn't you also embed data through sound? Upload a video of a monkey at the zoo but you insert ultrasound with encoded data.

something like this but far more mundane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLNpy62jIFk

Re: YouTubeDrive: Store files as YouTube videos

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Does YouTube store and stream all videos losslessly? How does this work otherwise?

The data is represented large enough on screen that compression doesn't destroy it.

e.g. similar to a QR code stored as a JPEG will still work fine.

Re: YouTubeDrive: Store files as YouTube videos

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Could youtube-dlp and YouTube Vanced now be hosted on.. YouTube? I wonder how long it'd take for Google to crack down on the system abuse. Is it really abuse if the videos are viewable / playable? Presumably the ToS either already forbids covert channel encoding or soon will.

Probably breaks TOS under video spam

Just gotta add some good 'ol steganography

Re: YouTubeDrive: Store files as YouTube videos

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could make it much harder to detect by synthesizing a unique video with a DNN and hiding the data using traditional stenography techniques.

I think that video compression might make this not a viable technique. Artifacts would destroy the hidden data, right?

Compression will limit the bandwidth of a given frame but you can work around it.

Some forms of DRM are already essentially this, compression - and even crappy camera recording from a theater - resistant DRM that is essentially stegonagraphy (you can't visually tell its there) exist.

EDIT: "compression resistant watermark" is a good search phrase if anyone is curious

Re: YouTubeDrive: Store files as YouTube videos

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Could youtube-dlp and YouTube Vanced now be hosted on.. YouTube? I wonder how long it'd take for Google to crack down on the system abuse. Is it really abuse if the videos are viewable / playable? Presumably the ToS either already forbids covert channel encoding or soon will.

If you put youtube-dlp on youtube as a video, make sure to use youtube-dlp to it up.

Re: YouTubeDrive: Store files as YouTube videos

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Turns out any site that allows users to submit and retrieve data can be abused in the same way: - FacebookDrive: "Store files as base64 facebook posts" - TwitterDrive: "Store files as base64 tweets" - SoundCloudDrive: "Store files as mp3 audio" - WikipediaDrive: "Store files in wikipedia article histories"

I wrote one of these as a POC when at AWS to store data sharded across all the free namespaces (think Lambda names), with pointers to the next chunk of data.

I like to think you could unify all of these into a FUSE filesystem and just mount your transparent multi-cloud remote FS as usual.

It's inefficient, but free! So you can have as much space as you want. And it's potentially brittle, but free! So you can replicate/stripe the data across as many providers as you want.

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