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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by meragrin_ »

ceeplusplus wrote: post #321
TAKEMYMONEY wrote: post #295

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OSX is 15% market share? Why would they make an entirely separate version on a new line of products just to cater to that, considering the fix you mentioned works for, well anyone not using VMs. (Typed this on a Ducky remapped for OSX)

It's certainly not 15% marketshare among premium corporate users. I bet if you condition on the company spending at least $700/unit on laptops for their employees, Apple's marketshare is more like 70%.

> condition on the company spending at least $700/unit on laptops for their employees

Did you miss a digit there? Seems like a very low bar. Every non-tech company I am aware of spends well more than that on laptops for very basic computer uses.

Where I work, Apple is a choice, but very few people have them. The only people I know who go for them are designers.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by benrow »

sandGorgon wrote: post #358
kstrauser wrote: post #333

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Two things made my WASD Keyboards's blue switches much quieter: - Installing the little rubber O rings around the base of each switch so that it's not super loud if I do happen to bottom out. - Replacing the ABS keycaps with PBT. I was genuinely surprised at the difference that made. It's not subtle in the least. I still probably wouldn't use it in a coworking environment because I don't hate my colleagues.

sorry im trying to figure out the jargon here. you bought a mechanical keyboard and then replaces the keys (ABS with PBT) ? is there anything that has this off-the-shelf ?

I'm very new to mechanical keyboards, but I just got an Epomaker EP84. PBT keycaps, and hot-swappable switches (I got brown). Very happy with it, though I've not tried any others. $85 (though I'm in UK, it was £70 here).

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by kodah »

ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> Enthusiasts will see the non-standard switches and lack of hotswap, and the fact that it's Logitech, honestly, and will bounce off.

> Non-enthusiasts will see that this Logitech keyboard is $150, but doesn't offer all that much more than their cheaper wireless multi-device keyboards, and will just buy a cheaper non-mech option.

If you find yourself in this bucket, check out Keychron. They make mechanical and optical hot swappable keyboards that are amazingly durable, multi-device, multi-platform, and cheap. The only bother you (sometimes) have to put up with is batch ordering.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Macha »

saiya-jin wrote: post #258
LoLFactor wrote: post #236

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I've used Logitech peripherals all my life and I stand by them. Specific to the keyboard, here's my experience of switching over to mechanical. I asked around, and people did recommend building my own, which I was cool with, but my needs were pretty specific and informed by my old keyboard (that I had used for 10+ years and had gotten accustomed to). I wanted a very specific layout: US International, the ISO variant…

Holy effin' moly I am not alone... square Enter, no stupid shift slashes placement. It took me forever to find something (actually didn't - Roccat I have have this idiotic tiny Enter, but good volume control knob which is super useful too), and I don't even want bluetooth since I never move it around. Logitech G915 looks great if it just used the cable, it seems to have volume knob/roller too. Too bad there isn't wir…

What layout has shift-slashes? I'm using a UK keymap with a 105-key ISO keyboard. Slashes are the keys one in from left/right shift. Shift-\ = | and Shift-/ = ?. Is there some common layout where these are reversed as to which is the shift key?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Macha »

darzu wrote: post #195
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

Last I checked, there were no mechanical keyboard using dongles. Way better than bluetooth.

This keyboard already exists for the gamer market, it's called the G915, it uses a dongle.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by gigaflop »

bayindirh wrote: post #52
gigaflop wrote: post #46

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It looks like it uses Cherry's low-profile switches, so if you're looking for switch reviews, there's your keyword.

Thanks, will keep that in mind.

Small correction to myself, but they're Kailh Chocs with an MX-compatible stem: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/logitech-mx-mechanical-...

But, they should be vaguely similar in feel. If you're looking for something clicky, the Kailh low-pro switches may be a better choice, since they developed their clickbar for the 'tactile event'. IMO, the clickbar switches are better than click jacket/etc for clicky switches.

Either way, you could order some loose switches as a sample before committing to one or the other. I'd not bother with the tactile (non-clicky) one, but that's just my own opinion.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by tmottabr »

alophawen wrote: post #274
bayindirh wrote: post #48

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No. Logitech sometimes push firmware updates for their receivers for security reasons. While my G700 is also capable of firmware updates, they didn't push anything to it since I bought it a decade ago.

The Logitech unifying receiver is FUBAR and no firmware updates will remedy that.

i guess this is why new products are using the Bolt receiver instead, that they claim is not compatible with the older Unifying receiver..

On the other hand, if the Bolt is any better then the Unifying only time will tell, but i do not have my hope up..

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by gigaflop »

MivLives wrote: post #234
gigaflop wrote: post #58

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I didn't know about the choc V2s until today, thanks! A shame that there might be fitment issues.

They're a bit on the obscure side, even among low profile keeb people. Very few boards support them (I think there's like a corne variant and maybe one or two other one offs), and they only come in 3 types.

I remember the 'US electrical socket with no ground pin' shaped stem form the V1s, and thought it was a shame that it was so hard to source keycaps for them. I never tried more than some loose switches I got on sale, since, you know. No broad support/interest, it seemed.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by tomtheelder »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #207
Kerrick wrote: post #107

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I bought a mechanical keyboard with clicky blue switches and brought it to work at my open office company. Very quickly my coworkers encouraged me to buy one with silent clear switches. I now own two. The clicky one stays at home.

I want a mechanical keyboard that's as quiet as possible. I assume you did research to find the best options. Would you have any resources available?

Silent linear switches are the quietest. If that's not an option, then linear switches with o-rings.

Also you frequently get quite a lot of noise from the stabilizers on the large keys. Your only real option there is to lube them, but that's not really feasible on most off the shelf keyboards.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by ihateolives »

bayindirh wrote: post #144
devit wrote: post #126

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Why would you buy a wireless keyboard for "daily work" which needs to be "no-fuss"? You are putting your security at risk (who knows whether the encryption is secure or whether the Logitech drivers are backdoored), as well as your convenience since you'll need to charge it periodically and there's a good chance you'll forget it (or forgot to buy disposable batteries if that's what it uses) and be completely unable to…

Simple. To keep my desk clean. First of all, my threat vector doesn't contain wireless attacks, and we'd have more serious problems if we come to that. Also, that thing can work probably while being charged, so no fuss. Otherwise, it can charge for a full day's worth of work in 15 minutes, which is just a coffee break. I know it's no advertisement since Sony is doing the same thing on many things for 10 years now? Th…

I'm still using Logitech solar K750 first gen which is about 12 or so years old. Best no fuss keyboard I've ever had. Always ready, still holding charge, wireless just works all the time. One of my best purchases ever in regards of getting value out of spent money.
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