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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by raydev »

arinlen wrote: post #53
bayindirh wrote: post #21

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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold. From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less. You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for…

> You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold.

This actually looks decently low-profile, what are similar reputable brand keyboards that are equal to or less than the height of this keyboard?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by gnicholas »

One reason I'd be interested to try this is it's presumably easier to buy/return these than custom keyboards. I don't know where I can go to try out different key types, so I'm hesitant to drop hundreds of dollars. But if this ends up on Amazon and I can buy it with a 30 day return window, that makes me much more likely to take the plunge.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by bayindirh »

gambiting wrote: post #96
II2II wrote: post #75

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I cannot speak for their recent keyswitches, but I bought a Logitech mechanical keyboard a few years back and the switches started failing after a couple of years. Being able to replace keyswitches kept the thing running for a few months longer. Eventually I gave up and replaced the entire keyboard since it became clear this was a design issue rather than a manufacturer defect. Still, the ability to replace a broken…

I'm on my 5th Corsair keyboard with Cherry switches - they eventually always start double clicking, Corsair replaces the keyboard under warranty, rinse and repeat. It's awful from electronics waste point of view, but I just don't see those as very reliable products.

Maybe the keyboard has a bad debouncer [0] design rather than bad switches?

[0]: https://www.eejournal.com/article/ultimate-guide-to-switch-d...

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by smiley1437 »

Note that this appears to use the Logi Bolt receiver, not the typical Unifying receiver - so you might end up with 2 dongles (a unifying and a bolt)

Be aware that Logitech now has 3 wireless technologies:

Unifying - the original 2.4 wireless, supports up to 6 devices. Symbol - Orange square with black or white six-pointed snowflake

Logi Bolt - the new encrypted version of their unifying controller, also supports up to 6 devices, uses Bluetooth Low Energy and FIPS. It is a new dongle. Symbol - Yellow hexagon with black bolt

LightSpeed Wireless - high performance low latency wireless for gaming, supports only one device per dongle, uses much more energy.

Available USB ports on laptops can become an issue if you mix them, happened to me!

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by raydev »

dsr_ wrote: post #87

Can someone explain to me the attraction of wireless keyboards? I get wireless mice: they're much easier to reposition - but my keyboard stays in one place all the time. Do other people move their keyboards repeatedly?

More use case:

- I play games using a separate, even smaller, keyboard. Easy to pick up my wireless work+everything else kb and toss it somewhere out of the way

- Sometimes I like to recline my chair way back and continue typing with the keyboard on my lap

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by ardit33 »

015a wrote: post #314
bayindirh wrote: post #21

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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

I feel that. Not everyone wants to make keyboards a hobby. What I'll say is: I've had both the MX Keys, and the G915. The MX Keys is the baby brother chicklet version of this one. The G915 is Logitech's gaming-grade low-profile mechanical keyboard, using switches that visually look similar to this one. I've had switch failures on both, within 18 months of (reasonably heavy) use; double typing, missed inputs, etc. The…

I have the G915 TKL (Clicky) an it is awesome. It is low profile and works great for programing.

Any regular Cherry MX keyboard is going to have tall keys, and it is just aweful for programming in general (long key travel makes typing around, and moving arrow keys, harder as it takes more effort).

I have build 2 custom keyboards, and have 2 more prebuild cherry mx keyboards, and I will never buy or work on a regular profile keyboard again. Low profile is are just much better ergonomically, and right now the G915 is one of the best in the market. (but it is pricey)

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by sandGorgon »

peeters wrote: post #319
sandGorgon wrote: post #316

so what's the recommendation for a mechanical keyboard that can be used in a silent, office environment (with coworkers) ? i went over some of the comments and read about "MX Browns" and "low profile switches", etc. What should I be googling for ? this is one of the reason me and several of my colleagues never got into mechanical keyboards - the sound. not all of us have the liberty to work at home because we prefer…

Browns (Cherry MX is the brand you might have heard referenced, but other switch manufacturers tend to align their colour coding for analogous offerings) are noticeably quieter but they're not going to sound like a mushy non-mechanical switch. Also, they're not meant to be bottomed out but many typists do bottom them out frequently, which makes them louder. Still I find they are a lot more forgiving to your coworkers…

>Part of me wants to say "that's the company's problem to fix", if the working arrangement is such that keystrokes can negatively impact your coworkers. Things like white noise generators and walls go a long way to dampening that.

so not all of us are based in the US. And we are limited by access to products like "white noise generators" and also land availability.

I would love recommendations if possible!

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by sandGorgon »

kstrauser wrote: post #333
peeters wrote: post #319

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Browns (Cherry MX is the brand you might have heard referenced, but other switch manufacturers tend to align their colour coding for analogous offerings) are noticeably quieter but they're not going to sound like a mushy non-mechanical switch. Also, they're not meant to be bottomed out but many typists do bottom them out frequently, which makes them louder. Still I find they are a lot more forgiving to your coworkers…

Two things made my WASD Keyboards's blue switches much quieter: - Installing the little rubber O rings around the base of each switch so that it's not super loud if I do happen to bottom out. - Replacing the ABS keycaps with PBT. I was genuinely surprised at the difference that made. It's not subtle in the least. I still probably wouldn't use it in a coworking environment because I don't hate my colleagues.

sorry im trying to figure out the jargon here. you bought a mechanical keyboard and then replaces the keys (ABS with PBT) ? is there anything that has this off-the-shelf ?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Root_Denied »

morsch wrote: post #223
FireBeyond wrote: post #156

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Typing this from my WASD Code Keyboard, that I love - am on my third (mostly coffee spills, not mechanical failure)... ... you do realize that these guys have firmware updates, too? https://support.wasdkeyboards.com/hc/en-us/articles/36001851...

I kind of would have expected a $175 keyboard to survive a coffee spill. It doesn't really happen anymore, but as a kid I must have spilled soda on my no-name keyboards once a month, with no ill effects.

One benefit of membrane keyboards is that the membrane would prevent liquids from reaching down into the sensor components.

That being said, I've resurrected my WASD Code keyboard a few times from coffee and water spills. It can be taken apart and cleaned with rubbing alcohol, left to dry, and reassembled pretty easily. I usually do this anyway every 18-24 months at this point for sanitary reasons.

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