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Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by Tade0 »

hammock wrote: post #24
treme wrote: post #2

ultrasonic washer are by far the best way to wash fruits & veges of these things, in Korea ultrasonic washer-sinks are picking up in popularity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JZkiGigDw&t=261s research citation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688301/

Can you give a specific product recommendation? I did a search and got a lot of junk or questionable results.

My experience so far is: don't go for the €100/$100 one.

I bought one because my relative wanted to have this particular model in his 3D printing... cave (for lack of a better word) and it broke down after a few weeks.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by treme »

hammock wrote: post #24
treme wrote: post #2

ultrasonic washer are by far the best way to wash fruits & veges of these things, in Korea ultrasonic washer-sinks are picking up in popularity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JZkiGigDw&t=261s research citation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688301/

Can you give a specific product recommendation? I did a search and got a lot of junk or questionable results.

It's just starting to get early adopter traction in an early adopter country, so it'll probably be a while until you can find something locally.

https://www.rahatsmall.com/

http://www.livinghertz.com/

are apparently 2 popular consumer brands in Korea.

I just searched aliexpress for "ultrasonic food cleaner", they probably work but no idea how they compare.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001039347867.html?spm=a2g0o...

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by gumby »

lm28469 wrote: post #22
treme wrote: post #2

ultrasonic washer are by far the best way to wash fruits & veges of these things, in Korea ultrasonic washer-sinks are picking up in popularity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JZkiGigDw&t=261s research citation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688301/

The trend of "we fucked up big time and need to create additional waste to take negate our fuck ups" is really worrying. Installing ultra sonic cleaners, reverse osmosis machines, AC units, &c. in every single of our houses/flats won't be sustainable

It's the same school of thought that says that one should lower taxes and invest less in road fixing and schools. Instead, cars wear out faster/need more repairs and wealthier parent pay for tutors to make up the difference.

40+ years of externalizing costs has taken its toll.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by maerF0x0 »

kaylz wrote: post #23

This is part of the reason I really want to move out of the U.S. Other countries are much more strict with what they allow in their food. I understand that I can pay more for organic produce and meat, but for a supposedly first-world country, you'd think decent produce would be a given.

and buying organic doesn't stop airborne, water borne, in your meats (the animals might ingest it) . Etc.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by nostromo »

kaylz wrote: post #23

This is part of the reason I really want to move out of the U.S. Other countries are much more strict with what they allow in their food. I understand that I can pay more for organic produce and meat, but for a supposedly first-world country, you'd think decent produce would be a given.

So you'd rather everyone pay more for food based on your personal preferences? Even though there's a lot of evidence that these foods are entirely safe...

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by munk-a »

toshk wrote: post #29
kickout wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nothing about organic production implies less pesticide. Opposite is true actually.

Except a lot of data, and stricter rules See: https://research.wur.nl/en/publications/cocktails-of-pestici... .

Your linked source is specific to Europe which tends to have much stronger regulations on pesticides. While the parent didn't state it explicitly I believe their statement was about the US since - yea, in America the organic label doesn't change the volume of pesticides you can use but rules out some of them.

The best tactic you can follow in the US is to try and buy imported produce from countries with stricter pesticide laws.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by maerF0x0 »

kickout wrote: post #19
Pet_Ant wrote: post #3

Doesn't say that they controlled for organic fruit (ie low pesticide) being more likely to be chosen by people who are already heath conscious.

Absolutely nothing about organic production implies less pesticide. Opposite is true actually.

organic production implies less/no synthetic pesticides

https://www.global-organics.com/post.php?s=2018-02-02-are-pe....

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by Bud »

toshk wrote: post #29
kickout wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nothing about organic production implies less pesticide. Opposite is true actually.

Except a lot of data, and stricter rules See: https://research.wur.nl/en/publications/cocktails-of-pestici... .

No post body was provided.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by fbanon »

mecsred wrote: post #25
fbanon wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without pesticides we could create more resistant cultivars.

Without antibiotics we could cultivate more resistant humans. That's probably not a situation anyone wants, pencillin was huge for a reason. Now looking into alternate forms of resistances while still enjoying modern treatments, theres an idea.

Bad analogy. Cultivating more resistant humans would raise a bunch of ethical questions.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Post by ch4s3 »

hetspookjee wrote: post #5
treme wrote: post #2

ultrasonic washer are by far the best way to wash fruits & veges of these things, in Korea ultrasonic washer-sinks are picking up in popularity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JZkiGigDw&t=261s research citation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688301/

It makes me sad that we need ultrasonic washers for fruit and vegetables.

For most of agricultural history people didn't eat raw vegetables at all, and only some raw fruits. Before the advent of modern agriculture night dirt was a common fertilizer and a serious vector for disease. It's still unsafe to ear raw fruits and vegetables in parts of the world with bad sanitization. I know a few people who have gotten seriously ill consuming fresh pressed fruit juice in North Africa.
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