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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by bmitc »

ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there.

Why is the mechanical keyboard community so elitist? I don't have time to research a keyboard made by some mom and pop keyboard operation when I already know it won't work (easily if at all) with my setup.

With Logitech's unifying receiver, I can have a completely wireless setup with a single keyboard and two mice (two different kinds that I switch between for wrist health and comfort) that I can seamlessly use with my work computer and home computer and the same monitor. So no wires, one monitor, one keyboard and mice setup, and two computers (of different OSs) that I switch between with a simple keyboard shortcut.

I'm not into the mechanical keyboard world because I value ergonomics and silence over nerding out over an overly clacky keyboard, but since this keyboard uses Logitech's unifying receiver, it has value. (Edit: well, it looks like this doesn't use the existing unifying receiver, which is definitely a valid complaint.)

The issues with the unifying receiver and interference are not specific to the receiver. As far as I understand, it's interference from USB 3.x ports that affects any 2.5 GHz wireless receiver.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by wasyl »

terramex wrote: post #28
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

According to Verge it uses Kailh Choc V2 Low Profile Switches: https://kono.store/products/kailh-choc-mx-switches Also Logitech's propertiary dongle is not necessary, it can use Bluetooth. https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/24/23137797/logitech-mx-mast...

> Also Logitech's propertiary dongle is not necessary, it can use Bluetooth.

I tried Logitech G915 TKL keyboard a while back. One of the dealbreakers was that while connected by Bluetooth, you couldn't use any of the _smart_ features of the keyboard like macros or more advanced backlight options. It may be different with this keyboard, but I definitely wouldn't assume that all of the features are available via Bluetooth, sadly

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by wasyl »

tekknik wrote: post #275
Tsiklon wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the looks of the side profile, this is using low profile mechanical switches, which seem uncommon or at the very least not popular in the mech keyboard community. I don’t think that they’re targeting the same sort of user as the enthusiast board manufacturers do. I mean the MX Keys is a popular product outside of mech keyboard circles, this may be positioned as an alternative for those users

> From the looks of the side profile, this is using low profile mechanical switches, which seem uncommon or at the very least not popular in the mech keyboard community. Where are you getting this from? I can count at least 3 people I know using low profiles. Without doing a poll. Some people want that laptop feel in a desktop board.

Have those people built the keyboard themselves, though? I've been periodically checking the more popular/accessible low-profile keyboards and other than Keychron and Logitech it was difficult to find something available in Europe. Low-profile switches definitely exist, but keyboards are pretty rare. If you add requirements like USB-C and bluetooth, there's really not much choice left (or is there? I'd love to be proven wrong)

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by TAKEMYMONEY »

coastflow wrote: post #278

The Apple keyboard layout (with Cmd and Opt keys) is a feature that other commenters on this thread haven't yet discussed. The major producers of keyboards with the Apple layout include "Keychron" and "Royal Kludge," but the brands aren't well-known to most consumers in contrast to Logitech. Each brand also has some reports of minor problems with build quality from forum discussions on Reddit, though it remains to be…

OSX is 15% market share? Why would they make an entirely separate version on a new line of products just to cater to that, considering the fix you mentioned works for, well anyone not using VMs. (Typed this on a Ducky remapped for OSX)

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by imtringued »

prometheus76 wrote: post #221
bayindirh wrote: post #21

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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

I own a DasKeyboard with MX Browns and it's my daily driver at work. I prefer MX Blue switches (or even MX Greens) because I grew up in the old buckling spring era of IBM keyboard dominance (my home keyboard is an old Model M from the late 90s). I would use a clicky keyboard at work, but my coworkers don't like it, so I stick with the browns. I HIGHLY recommend the DasKeyboard. It's hefty, and I installed a custom ke…

I had a Das keyboard and it was the best.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Macha »

prometheus76 wrote: post #221
bayindirh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

I own a DasKeyboard with MX Browns and it's my daily driver at work. I prefer MX Blue switches (or even MX Greens) because I grew up in the old buckling spring era of IBM keyboard dominance (my home keyboard is an old Model M from the late 90s). I would use a clicky keyboard at work, but my coworkers don't like it, so I stick with the browns. I HIGHLY recommend the DasKeyboard. It's hefty, and I installed a custom ke…

I did have a Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate fail on me after 6 years (the switches in the F and G key started to not always register).

I'm sure someone with a steadier hand could maybe fix it with a soldering iron.

I did see some of the reviews of the newer revisions were less positive than their historical record

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by LoLFactor »

saiya-jin wrote: post #258
LoLFactor wrote: post #236

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I've used Logitech peripherals all my life and I stand by them. Specific to the keyboard, here's my experience of switching over to mechanical. I asked around, and people did recommend building my own, which I was cool with, but my needs were pretty specific and informed by my old keyboard (that I had used for 10+ years and had gotten accustomed to). I wanted a very specific layout: US International, the ISO variant…

Holy effin' moly I am not alone... square Enter, no stupid shift slashes placement. It took me forever to find something (actually didn't - Roccat I have have this idiotic tiny Enter, but good volume control knob which is super useful too), and I don't even want bluetooth since I never move it around. Logitech G915 looks great if it just used the cable, it seems to have volume knob/roller too. Too bad there isn't wir…

You're in luck, friend. G815. Exactly the same keyboard, but wired. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find pictures of it with this exact layout (seems to have the 105-key layout).

That having been said, more good news. My model came with the same pictures, but it was the 104-key layout, so it might vary by region, I guess. Look around and see what you can find at your local retailers.

Even more good news, even if you can't find the G815, the G915 DOES work by wire, if you really want to. You can hook it up via micro USB. Even comes with a cable.

Also, might I suggest you at least try a wireless keyboard. OK, so you don't move it. Valid argument. Neither do I, but the lack of one MORE cable on my desk, plus the ability to just yank it off the desk for cleaning, with having to unplug it, well worth it.

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