Worth pointing out they also released the new MX Master 3S [1] today. [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/05/logitech-mx-master-3...
Hoped for MX Master 4 to be honest
Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard
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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard
#262They don't tell you what the actual switches are on the page, but they look like Cherry's low-profile switches, which will hopefully mean that the keycaps can be customized. Taller keycaps like SA or MT3 profile might not be great with such short travel, but GMK/OEM/Cherry profile would probably be comfortable.
Could also be choc v2s, which I say is more likely, because otherwise they'd plaster cherry logos somewhere on the page. There's a bunch of compatibility problems with those. Cherry, GMK, and PBT MT3 all don't work according to a geekhack thread I see. Cherry's lp switch would probably have similar issues.
Per The Verge's review[0], they're using Kalih Choc V2 switches.
[0]: https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/24/23137797/logitech-mx-mast...
Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard
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No. Logitech sometimes push firmware updates for their receivers for security reasons. While my G700 is also capable of firmware updates, they didn't push anything to it since I bought it a decade ago.
Yeah, security updates for my keyboard is not a selling feature.
Literally any keyboard running over USB has software. They’re not as simple devices as people think.
Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard
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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…
I own a DasKeyboard with MX Browns and it's my daily driver at work. I prefer MX Blue switches (or even MX Greens) because I grew up in the old buckling spring era of IBM keyboard dominance (my home keyboard is an old Model M from the late 90s). I would use a clicky keyboard at work, but my coworkers don't like it, so I stick with the browns. I HIGHLY recommend the DasKeyboard. It's hefty, and I installed a custom ke…
Same here. I got two of the Das Keyboard 4 (one for work, one for home) over 7 years ago and they're still going strong. I like the brown switches personally.
I hadn't realized how much using membrane switch was causing RSI until I switched to mechanical keyboards.
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I want a mechanical keyboard that's as quiet as possible. I assume you did research to find the best options. Would you have any resources available?
Quiet as possible: Reds (any company, I prefer Cherry). Quiet enough that your coworkers won't hear it, yet very comfortable to type on for those new to mechanical keyboards: Browns.
Reds + orings, or brown + orings. A lot of the sound comes from someone bottoming out the keys.
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> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold. From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less. You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for…
How many layouts do they have besides en_US?
I find it apalling even Apple offers more keyboard layouts than a company focused entirely on peripherials.
It's insulting honestly.
Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…
> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold. From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less. You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for…
Whilst I get your point - you might want to tone down the rhetoric slightly...
I'm a mechanical keyboard aficionado - I've gone through everything from Das, to Annes, to WhiteFoxes, to Keychrons. (Yes, I did solder some of those...lol).
My current daily driver is a Keychron K6 - but even I am seriously considering this Logitech.
The spec sheet promises a battery life of 10 months (no backlight) - the Keychron K6 is fine - except that the battery life sucks, and it takes 3-4 seconds to wake up from sleep every time.
I'm looking for a QMK wireless keyboard, but they're thin on the ground - and I suspect the battery life would still be terrible.
At the end of the day, companies like Logitech (or Apple) have the time and engineering nous to test things, and have them Just Work. Things like decent battery life, or having fast wake-from-sleep would probably be handled by their engineering teams.
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So I can point my 60yo father to a reddit thread to try to figure out the differences between switches and manufacturers when all he really wants is a keyboard that sounds/feels better than the gummy crap that came with his Dell. Then maybe he'll create an account and ask a question and get some snarky ass hole reply from someone barking "IF You'd HAd GooOgled It!". Or, I can say "dad, check out this logitech kb. It'…
Being from a recognizable brand and available at Staples/Bestbuy/Walmart are big things.
Sometimes people who are deep into things forget about that. You've done 100s of hours of research. You've chosen X Y and Z for reasons. You've built this and that, tried some of those.
Most people's keyboard choice is about 3 minutes in the aisle. Done.
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#269numpad is a dealbreaker for me I never really realized how annoying it was to reach so far for my mouse until I got used to having a tenkeyless keyboard...now I won't use anything else. EDIT: nevermind, there is a tenkeyless version - i'm a dummy
This also comes in a tenkeyless mini variant
Ok, wow I'm dumb I didn't even try the dropdowns.
Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard
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Eh, I really like the Logitech wireless dongle. So much more reliable than Bluetooth and it works on the bios screen as well. Never really cared about swapping switches much and I want my keyboard to be wireless. I’d consider buying this if I didn’t already own the regular mx keys.
The fact that it IS a dongle is the major disadvantage. Most laptops have only one or two USB-B slots and many are moving towards USB-C for everything. Most also have very functional bluetooth built in. It's just not worth a minor improvement in connection quality (which is debatable, reading these comments) to lose the only slot I have in a laptop. I have to unplug my external keyboard in order to use my headset if…
I plug in 3-4 cables on my laptop a day. I don’t see why plugging in a dock is so difficult. Hell all you really need is a USB hub that connects via USB-c. One cable and done.