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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Logitech is no longer the great company it used to be, so I have decided to no longer purchase their products. I purchased a G Pro X Wireless Headset less than 2 years ago, and I'm already on my second warrranty replacement (3 total headsets.) Multiple parts on it seem designed to fail, and all of mine have failed in the same way. They use laughably small screws to connect the band to the arms that hold the earcups a…

It feels weird to me, to judge a keyboard company by their headset. Those have always had fragile plastic hinges with the earcups falling off, that is not a new development. Their mice and keyboards are pretty good, and the G Pro Wireless is one of the best in the game right now.

They're mostly a computer peripheral company. They've always made a ton of products like keyboards, mice, webcams, speakers, headsets, microphones, game controllers, etc. I've only experienced issues with fragile plastic parts in sub $80 headsets. You definitely shouldn't be seeing such a critical design flaw on a $200 headset.

The quality of their products used to be pretty good, but it's becomming obvious that they're starting to cut too many corners to reduce costs. I have an old pair of logitech speakers that have lasted me well over 10 years.

The G Pro Wireless has some major issues as well. They build up static electricity during use and this causes a single click to register as multiple clicks, and causes a continuous click to stop registering when you're holding the button down. This is terrible for a gaming mouse. I switched to a Razer Viper Ultimate and haven't had any issues.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold. From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less. You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for…

I'm a big fan of the Logitech Triathlon keyboards and mice (which this one seems to be among).

I use a Kinesis Advantage and USB/DP KVM on my desk, but have switched my spouse and my basement computers over to the Triathlon keyboards and mice (which support hotkey switching among three computers, including mixed Bluetooth and multi-device USB dongle connections). My spouse switches between her work laptop and Macbook without fussing with cables or a KVM and is quite happy with it.

(I bought much cheaper M720 and K850/K780 keyboards on Ebay, but the underlying convention/functionality seems the same and is really slick/cheap for multi-computer usage.)

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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I suppose the only thing that makes this a better proposition is Logitechs Flow software, which allows you to use the same keyboard/mouse across multiple devices on your network, without having to manually switch. Otherwise, keychron's low-profile keyboards are a better value.

I came here saying that I would never again use software for a peripheral (keyboard, mouse) to control color, etc.. that must be kept running to maintain settings. I'm looking at you Razor Mouse. It's one thing to have custom software to set settings but the idea that the peripheral can't maintain those settings unless the software is kept running is ridiculous to me. My GMMK keyboard, for instance, it's a bit awkward but you don't need custom software to control color or custom functions, you can switch most of those using the keyboard itself or run software, set your settings, then exit the software and maintain your settings.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

if you're looking for this: leopold is your jam.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have a Keychron and it has been a one stop, buy and use until it dies kind of thing for me.

I had 3 keychron keyboards, each lasted less than a year before the switches failed, reverted back to a logitech K780 from 5+ years ago and it works a champ. Also Keychron had some obscure usb cable requirement, that they could never convey over support emails. You would think that any usbc usbc cable would work for a keyboard, but not the few I had laying around that were longer than the provided one Just my two cen…

I still have the original small KeyChron, it’s been a beast. Had it for years now. I abuse it mightily and it won’t quit.

Maybe their QA has fallen in recent years?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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post #87

Can someone explain to me the attraction of wireless keyboards? I get wireless mice: they're much easier to reposition - but my keyboard stays in one place all the time. Do other people move their keyboards repeatedly?

Yes, that's the main use case. I rearrange my desk depending on what I do, and going wireless makes that process much easier. Connecting a computer to my living room TV is also much easier, as I can easily use it from the couch.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

#247

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

Does "use-it-till-it-dies" mean if a single switch goes bad you'll just buy a whole new keyboard? If so, I recommend not spending so much on a mechanical as the ability to swap individual switches is one of the main things you're paying for.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels weird to me, to judge a keyboard company by their headset. Those have always had fragile plastic hinges with the earcups falling off, that is not a new development. Their mice and keyboards are pretty good, and the G Pro Wireless is one of the best in the game right now.

They're mostly a computer peripheral company. They've always made a ton of products like keyboards, mice, webcams, speakers, headsets, microphones, game controllers, etc. I've only experienced issues with fragile plastic parts in sub $80 headsets. You definitely shouldn't be seeing such a critical design flaw on a $200 headset. The quality of their products used to be pretty good, but it's becomming obvious that they…

Are you sure the issue is static electricity? Despite being essentially some of the best mice on the market, the switches they use are a bit sub-standard. Over time, they tend to develop double-click issues. (Where a single click registers as two)

I had a G305 that did this, and given the low price of the mouse I gave up going through the work to desolder and replace the switches.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

#249
post #97

Logitech is no longer the great company it used to be, so I have decided to no longer purchase their products. I purchased a G Pro X Wireless Headset less than 2 years ago, and I'm already on my second warrranty replacement (3 total headsets.) Multiple parts on it seem designed to fail, and all of mine have failed in the same way. They use laughably small screws to connect the band to the arms that hold the earcups a…

Latest Logitech mouse I got is giving me issues less than a month in. Pretty grim

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Don't see the point of this product, this fits squarely in the "too little, too late" category. $150-200 buys you something that has quality switches, probably will have socketed switches (so swapping switches, modifying them, etc, won't require de/resoldering them), comes with at least double-shot PBT keycaps (or better), will have an actually decent backplate, and nowadays a lot of keyboards are coming with sound dampening internally preinstalled, and sometimes even pre-lubed.

What did Logitech do here? Kalih Choc V2s (and Logitech doesn't disclose this on their website). They aren't the worst switches, but they're not MX pin compatible (ironic for a keyboard named MX), which also means not a lot of options for keycaps when these start wearing after only 2-3 years of ownership (Chocs don't use MX stems, and I can already tell those look like really low grade caps), which means a keycap replacement will probably cost at least half as much as the keyboard (rare stem types aren't cheap and don't have many options). Side profile photos make it look like it doesn't even have a real plate, and it is so thin that it will flex, thus damaging switches or breaking connections. It is an exceptionally thin build, so they're using a lithium cell that isn't easy to replace.

Like, I'm sorry, but this entire thing looks like its design to fail in 2-3 years. You buy mechanical keyboards to use for a decade, because you actually want something halfway decent to type on. $150-200 puts you into the high end of the hobby. If I wanted a keyboard to fail in 2-3 years, but still be mechanical and cut all the corners like Logitech seems to have, China has cranked out some really cheap bangers that have wireless and all the new modern wireless features in the $50 range, or even less if you're going wired (since this is a desktop keyboard, wireless is often an actually unwanted misfeature).

I'd skip the entire thing and just buy a real keyboard from a known quality vendor. Literally the price is what made this be instantly DOA, they could have made an argument for $100 to go after the non-knowledgeable segment of the market and probably have gotten away with it.

I think Logitech got a case of sudden onset greed when they looked at stuff Keychron, Nuphy, or even GMMK have been cranking out, and thought they could get in on it at a higher price point, but not willing to bring the build or parts quality.

Do not buy this thing, you will regret it.

Edit: So I read through some of the sibling comments. Nice to see a lot of people also jumping up Logitech's ass over this.

I don't understand the argument of "but what about my parents/grandparents in their 50s and 60s". They don't buy mechanical keyboards, they don't care about the fancy feature set in some Bluetooth keyboards, and they will find it absolutely absurd somebody paid over $100 for a keyboard.

They will buy a Logitech, and it'll be that really shitty one on the bottom shelf at Walmart, or they will search on Amazon for keyboards and sort by price and buy one of the cheaper ones and it will be some no-name Chinese brand.

Unless they're complete absolute unrepentant nerds like we are, the average person on earth, of any possible demographic, is not going to care about a $150 keyboard. Logitech's brand recognition can't save them, it will not push crapware.

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