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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by kosma »

It's such a disappointment that they chose to continue the weird custom layout of MX Keys - merged function row with two extra buttons and missing PrintSc/Pause/ScrollLk. I also had to import my MX Keys from the US because the European layout is a joke. In the end, no matter how good things are, they are already spoiled from the design stage. Why, Logitech, why?

Side note also - I bought an MX Master 3 and within a year the rubber coating is ruined. I'm trying to get a warranty replacement but I'm pretty sure the replacement will share the same fate. I guess my hands just are acidic?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by dotancohen »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #207
Kerrick wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a mechanical keyboard with clicky blue switches and brought it to work at my open office company. Very quickly my coworkers encouraged me to buy one with silent clear switches. I now own two. The clicky one stays at home.

I want a mechanical keyboard that's as quiet as possible. I assume you did research to find the best options. Would you have any resources available?

Quiet as possible: Reds (any company, I prefer Cherry).

Quiet enough that your coworkers won't hear it, yet very comfortable to type on for those new to mechanical keyboards: Browns.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by ascagnel_ »

pkdpic wrote: post #171

I'm definitely a neophyte to mechanical keyboard culture but its pretty obvious that its being co-opted by and sold to normies. I've observed that its the mechanical keyboard gamer scenes fault.

I remember it being the other way around -- there was a class of programmers that loved the old buckling-spring IBM mechanical keyboards, then about 15 years ago Das Keyboard started making a new stuff. It became a much more common shortly after when the patents on mechanical key-switches expired; Cherry and Gateron made their switches widely available and OEMs took it to the "wide niche" that it is today.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by MivLives »

gigaflop wrote: post #58
MivLives wrote: post #36

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Could also be choc v2s, which I say is more likely, because otherwise they'd plaster cherry logos somewhere on the page. There's a bunch of compatibility problems with those. Cherry, GMK, and PBT MT3 all don't work according to a geekhack thread I see. Cherry's lp switch would probably have similar issues.

I didn't know about the choc V2s until today, thanks! A shame that there might be fitment issues.

They're a bit on the obscure side, even among low profile keeb people. Very few boards support them (I think there's like a corne variant and maybe one or two other one offs), and they only come in 3 types.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by welfare »

dsr_ wrote: post #87

Can someone explain to me the attraction of wireless keyboards? I get wireless mice: they're much easier to reposition - but my keyboard stays in one place all the time. Do other people move their keyboards repeatedly?

Easy peasy, I don't want to have cables cluttering my desk and am willing to pay a premium for any device that comes in a wireless format.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by LoLFactor »

ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

I've used Logitech peripherals all my life and I stand by them. Specific to the keyboard, here's my experience of switching over to mechanical. I asked around, and people did recommend building my own, which I was cool with, but my needs were pretty specific and informed by my old keyboard (that I had used for 10+ years and had gotten accustomed to). I wanted a very specific layout: US International, the ISO variant (with the square(ish) Enter), but the 104-key, without the extra key next to the left Shift. It's not very common, but it's the one I use, and not many manufacturers use it (especially custom mechanical boards). I also wanted media keys and some programmable keys for macros.

After looking around for a while, I mostly found 10-key-less custom boards, very few full keyboards and none were the exact layout I wanted (they were either ANSI with the small Enter, which I hate, or 105-key ISO, which I would have also hated). Not to mention lacking media keys and/or programmable keys. Then I found my current keyboard. The Logitech G915 Lightspeed.

It is EXACTLY what I wanted. Has the correct layout, has media keys, has programmable keys, it's dual wireless (Bluetooth and their Lightspeed connector, which is definitely more reliable than Bluetooth, I have to tell you; also it works before booting into Windows, which Bluetooth does not, so I don't have to use a different keyboard for BIOS), the battery lasts FOREVER (3-4 weeks, including me turning on the lighting at night) and is replaceable. It uses Kailh Low-profile switches, which although uncommon, can be found online, and, while not hotswappable, can be replaced in the event of failure.

The MRSP is 250 EUR, I got it for 150 new, which is a steal. With that money I basically bought myself a keyboard which I can conceivably use for the next 20 years, no problem (factoring in inevitable key repairs and battery replacement(s), of course).

Don't know about you, but I'm happy with my choice and purchase and would wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone. In fact, after using it for a while, I also purchased the G502 Wireless mouse, which I also love.

So, yeah, for some people, Logitech peripherals are exactly what they need.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by GrabbinD33ze69 »

ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

I'm 99% sure this is just they're G915 wireless keyboard, just without a volume wheel and the aesthetics appealing to the gamer crowd. Also have you have a poor experience withe the 2.4ghz tech they label as "lightspeed"? I use it right next to a wifi router and I haven't noticed any issues.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by japhyr »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #121
bayindirh wrote: post #21

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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

This is the one that I've been using for quite some time: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k6-wireless-mecha... I'm not a keyboard geek (I don't touch-type, for one thing), and feel you, for the "one-stop shop" thing. I do have a couple of old Logitech keyboards, collecting dust in a bin, upstairs.

I use a non-backlit K8 during the day and a backlit K2 at night. I like the keychrons so much I ordered a second hot-swappable K8 and some custom quiet switches for making videos.

My mk journey went das keyboard > cooler master > leopold > vortex > keychron. I haven't looked for anything different since I got the keychrons.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by MivLives »

samatman wrote: post #78
MivLives wrote: post #57

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Been using one for over two years now. They're great, but I'd say go for one that isn't row staggered (the keys don't line up vertically in columns).

I'd like to add nuance to this advice. For reasons I don't understand, ortholinear is either a Really Big Deal or it just... isn't. I'm the latter. Switching to the ErgoDox layout took some doing, it's been an iterative process of tweaking the layout, but actually typing on linear keys was a transition I barely noticed. For different brains it's a complete showstopper and they have to learn how to type again, for man…

ErgoDox isn't actually ortholinear, it's columnar.

Ortholinear is just a straight grid of buttons. Columnar is what most split ergo boards are. Having used one I don't find ortholinear very good feeling without a split, as it makes your wrists go in a weird angle.

I sorta transitioned in via way of an ortholinear which I think helped a bunch. Rather then going from a normal board to a splitergo, I used a preonic for a few months first. I have let others use my split board, and I've seen what you're talking about. Some people are able to adjust pretty easily, others just panic. The harder part is all the weird thumb buttons they have to use (backspace, enter, and [] are all thumb buttons for me)

For any one worrying you lose skill in other layouts when you switch, I haven't found that to be the case. For the most part I can transition back to a laptop keyboard pretty easily and only attempt to hit certain buttons that aren't there once or twice in the first few minutes.

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