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Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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I don't think that's the underlying problem. The youtube algorithm sees people searching for something, watching a video and then liking it. How should it not conclude that the content was useful for the watcher? Probably it even _was_ useful and gave them the info needed to solve their problem. So why did they consume this content on YouTube and not on Stack Overflow? Because that's the way they are used to searchin…

"So why did they consume this content on YouTube and not on Stack Overflow? Because that's the way they are used to searching for answers" No, it's because they searched on a technical topic and the Stack Overflow hits ranked lower than this spam. There's a shitload of spam-bucket, search-trap sites that scrape Stack Overflow and re-host its text in a column full of ads. I mean... pages of hits of them. Now we have a…

100% agreed on the decline of Google's algorithm. Those SO rip off sites make me furious, too [1]!

But people know they are clicking on a video link and do so not just because it's ranked higher than the text ones, but because they feel a video is easier to understand.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26436490

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Free storage space. I wonder how much it costs for Google to store all those 2M videos. Here’s an idea. Encode your data/backups into a video (it’ll display as noise but that doesn’t matter). Store on YouTube for free instead of paying for terabytes on Google Drive.

They will re-encode it and it might not be reversible I guess ? Also they regularly delete videos/channels with no warning and have absolutely 0 concern about backups.

> They will re-encode it and it might not be reversible I guess?

You can encode information into the audio of video that is resistant to re-encoding.

> Also they regularly delete videos/channels with no warning and have absolutely 0 concern about backups.

You could use a level of redundancy in the videos which would resist that too, like the [2] RAID concept in hard-drive storage.

[1] https://asmp-eurasipjournals.springeropen.com/articles/10.11...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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It's only a matter of time before we'll see auto-generated content that uses AI-generated imagery, text and voice synthesis to produce content that appears vaguely intelligble enough to fool people to watch it. And as the downvote count is private information now it will be very hard to distinguish these videos from legitimate ones. Personally I think creative-commons licensed content is a double-edged sword. It seem…

> AI-generated imagery, text and voice synthesis to produce content that appears vaguely intelligble enough to fool people to watch it

You seem to readily assume this content isn't worth watching. People consume all sorts of content for all sorts of reason.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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The guy in question appears even stranger if you try to look up "what he is". According to the information he puts up on the internet about himself, he is presumably (..?) an accomplished individual, being affiliated with MariaDB and seemingly being knowledgable about linux/IT stuff (this latter not surprising, to the extent he is the one that has set up that youtube monstrosity.) But then again, if you try to browse…

Maybe Arthur T. Murray wasn't a kook and he finally got Mentifex up and running.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Free storage space. I wonder how much it costs for Google to store all those 2M videos. Here’s an idea. Encode your data/backups into a video (it’ll display as noise but that doesn’t matter). Store on YouTube for free instead of paying for terabytes on Google Drive.

at quick glance, the videos seem to be in 1.5 - 4 minute range, so taking 2.5 minutes as average, youtube-dl fetches 8 MiB. I don't know what policy does youtube use for storing lower bitrate encodings, but I figure they only keep them temporarily for some time since it was last requested and encode it live. so 2000000*8 MiB = 16 TiB, not counting whatever redundancy they have. with the 20M views that guy has got in total, they probably make more money off him than the storage/bandwidth/compute costs

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They may have a different taste, but that taste is no better or worse than anyone else's. This is often repeated like it's some universal truth. Enjoying a film (or anything) doesn't mean it's great - this is a very hard to explain idea though, as it's something that is experienced in the core of your being. It's like trying to explain why small talk is important to someone from a low-context culture - there's prob…

I'd be interested if you have link/research that can explain to me why small talk is important (or what criteria makes sense for determining why movie X is better than Y). If you want to bother explaining too I'd happily read it.

I think it acts as a way to show you’re a safe/sane person, and then conversations can progress to more depth. It’s like a check-in.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new…

> They may have a different taste, but that taste is no better or worse than anyone else's. This is often repeated like it's some universal truth. Enjoying a film (or anything) doesn't mean it's great - this is a very hard to explain idea though, as it's something that is experienced in the core of your being. It's like trying to explain why small talk is important to someone from a low-context culture - there's prob…

I think you can diffuse what makes a movie good versus enjoyable by judging/basing your criteria on specific qualities. How were the actor's performances, how was cinematography used effectively to convey meaning, how was it written, and how effectively did the director translate their vision into the end product. Were all of these things well executed? Then it's a technically well made film. This is usually what film reviewers are responding to.

That's still not to say film criticism or analysis is objective--there's nothing specifically quantifiable here, but it's more constructive than just saying something is good and something is bad because it's to or not to one's taste. Taste is an appropriate metaphor--a meal at your local deli tastes delicious, but probably lacks the same craft and presentation as the meal from the 5 star restaurant across the street. You can disagree with someone's taste, but you not liking mustard doesn't mean anyone who likes mustard is an idiot, or, you liking high art doesn't mean everyone who liked 'Furious 7' has bad taste.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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I got inspired after watching it. There is a clever piece of script behind it. I've planned a full coding session today in order to implement it. Cooking recipes, philosophy quotes, Wikipedia articles (?) and daily news headlines. Still looking for more content. I'm also thinking about TTS functions like the one used in Sir Reddit YT channel. Hate me or join me. Risso.gabriele@protonmail.ch

> Hate me or join me

No hate, no join. I doubt this is going anywhere. You seem to be in a stage of fishing for things to do[1] which is a great place to learn new skills but not that great to actually get anything done. Been there, done that.. a few times!

Personally I'd pick something easier to do if you're after cash rather than skills, get yourself eased into making stuff. Spam the hell out of YouTube or whatever later, haha

You gotta keep in mind this is just one channel that got successful at spamming YouTube in this way, of probably thousands of channels trying, and managed a channel best of 79k views on a video. What's that in 2022 YouTube CPM? $60-100 or so, depending on which bucket of ads you get put into? That's like 10x less than making a decent 10 minute tech tutorial.

Much less effort once the code is written, sure, not much more reward. That's not factoring in your script randomly breaking and needing maintenance.

Back to Van de Paar - there's only a few videos with that level of viewcount, the rest topping out around 20k or so. I imagine the channel has some terrible watch time stats too as people will be jumping past his little piece to camera to get the answer they were searching, then dipping as soon as they got the answer or realised the video was guff. That probably wont do you any favours long term.

To also note that the high view counts are videos that have all been up for over a year. Don't be thinking this is quick money!

It's true you have a greater chance of hitting a lottery video by spamming 2 million videos into the void but even that's not guaranteed if nobody ever watches the video in the first place! Focus your brain cycles on video titles and the thumbnail once you've got the code bit down. If nobody clicks the video, nobody watches, algorithm doesn't care about the video, nobody is suggested the video, nobody clicks the video, nobody watches, etc.

You're in high likelihood only going to learn how to play with ffmpeg and improve your code skills off the back of this. Good luck with that bit, it should be fun! I love tinkering with ffmpeg :)

If you do go for it I'd love to know how the end result pans out time and tech wise! Was the juice worth the squeeze? If you'd done minimum wage somewhere else would it have turned out better financially? I bet that article would get some front page HN attention! :)

E: Oh man don't even get me started on the admin side of things if you find yourself on YouTube's radar. Did you know if your Adsense account gets banned.. that's it? You can't re-register, can't appeal, you're just done now. Can't ever use Google ads as yourself again. Not on YouTube, not on your website. You gotta register a new legal entity (LLC etc) if you ever need them again.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31385531

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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It's only a matter of time before we'll see auto-generated content that uses AI-generated imagery, text and voice synthesis to produce content that appears vaguely intelligble enough to fool people to watch it. And as the downvote count is private information now it will be very hard to distinguish these videos from legitimate ones. Personally I think creative-commons licensed content is a double-edged sword. It seem…

> It's only a matter of time before we'll see auto-generated content that uses AI-generated imagery, text and voice synthesis to produce content that appears vaguely intelligble enough to fool people to watch it.

This is already happening, look at the following of Hololive. For now there are humans behind the animated figures but they aren't much more than story writers and it shouldn't take long for the company to figure out that they could automatically generate this content.

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