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I suppose the only thing that makes this a better proposition is Logitechs Flow software, which allows you to use the same keyboard/mouse across multiple devices on your network, without having to manually switch. Otherwise, keychron's low-profile keyboards are a better value.
How does it compare to Synergy or Mouse without borders?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/garage/wall-of-fame/mouse-wi...
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Switches are probably either cherry's low profile switch, or Kailh's version 2 of it's choc low profile switch. I honestly have no idea why this was posted on HN, there's a ton of other keyboards that have the same specs and features. Sure it's got Logitech's priority dongle, but as you point out, what's here that's not on a 70 dollar gk65.
I think it was posted more as an interesting industry trend. It's acknowledgement of a former niche turning into a real industry from the big name in the space.
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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…
how dare you have simple yet unrefined tastes! how DARE YOU
Sorry for being so crude and tasteless.
:)
This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…
> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…
Keyboard that needs firmware updates? Yuck. It’s an input device. I’ll stick with my 12 year old WASD Code and Model M thank you very much.
/end boomer
Worth pointing out they also released the new MX Master 3S [1] today. [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/05/logitech-mx-master-3...
1) put the device swap button on easily accessible place along with the device led indicator (perhaps incorporated in the battery led indicator); 2) make it able to work directly via usb cable for redundancy.
That is all.
This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…
> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…
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Eh, I really like the Logitech wireless dongle. So much more reliable than Bluetooth and it works on the bios screen as well. Never really cared about swapping switches much and I want my keyboard to be wireless. I’d consider buying this if I didn’t already own the regular mx keys.
The fact that it IS a dongle is the major disadvantage. Most laptops have only one or two USB-B slots and many are moving towards USB-C for everything. Most also have very functional bluetooth built in. It's just not worth a minor improvement in connection quality (which is debatable, reading these comments) to lose the only slot I have in a laptop. I have to unplug my external keyboard in order to use my headset if…
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> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…
> which can work with any OS, incl. firmware updates. Keyboard that needs firmware updates? Yuck. It’s an input device. I’ll stick with my 12 year old WASD Code and Model M thank you very much. /end boomer
While my G700 is also capable of firmware updates, they didn't push anything to it since I bought it a decade ago.
This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…
According to Verge it uses Kailh Choc V2 Low Profile Switches: https://kono.store/products/kailh-choc-mx-switches Also Logitech's propertiary dongle is not necessary, it can use Bluetooth. https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/24/23137797/logitech-mx-mast...
I would have liked to see the VR keyboard tracking included. I would have considered one then.
I'll note that I love my MX Master 3 and haven't found anything that even comes close.