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Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by Stunting »

stackbutterflow wrote: post #88
jeroenhd wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new…

It's important to be intellectually stimulated. Feeling good is not enough. The same way drugs trigger pleasure in our brain but we can't accept a society where the majority is constantly high and a minority runs the show. The moment we give up on pushing people to challenge themselves is the moment our society declines. Moreover democracies require an educated populace in order to survive.

Feeling good is a distraction that is useful to society. We are not a population requiring 100% productivity at all times. Feeling good can help ease problems, disconnecting through "trash tv" can give your brain enough of a break to come back to a problem you couldn't solve with a clear head. Routine serves humanity very well, and watching blockbuster movies as a reason to get together and watch with your loved ones is amazing.

I think a lot about how the movies I work give breaks to people across all workforces. Those that are trying to solve humanities diseases who need a disconnect from the workload and those that do shift work away from their families both deserve to take some time off their life and be entertained by a ferry passenger trying to escape a sinking ship or a junior exec getting hit in the nuts by a goat.

When I did a sequel of a popular movie I went deep into the hashtags on instagram and found dozens of "we watched this on our first date and now we're married, can't wait to see the next." type stories. Not a bad value for a campy zombie flick.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by trh0awayman »

jeroenhd wrote: post #79
trh0awayman wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recommendation systems just mirror what the users watch - including their age - and the reality is that 99% of people have horrible taste in just about everything. They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that".

> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new…

> They may have a different taste, but that taste is no better or worse than anyone else's.

This is often repeated like it's some universal truth. Enjoying a film (or anything) doesn't mean it's great - this is a very hard to explain idea though, as it's something that is experienced in the core of your being. It's like trying to explain why small talk is important to someone from a low-context culture - there's probably a fundamental disconnect where it will never make sense. Although I can explain it with words, it really only makes sense on an emotional level. It's the difference between criticism by The Needle Drops and Lester Bangs. One is focused only on "objectivity" - "slashing guitars and crunchy snares"; the other is weaving a story.

But I guarantee you that anyone with the ability to convincingly articulate why The Office is better than Rebels of the Neon God isn't arguing in good faith. And there's a reason for that.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by rjmunro »

I haven't found these videos by searching, so I tried to find them by searching for the title of a question I answered on Stack Overflow. I still didn't find him, but I did find a similar channel, but fronted by a woman on a bed: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaZL4eLD7a30Fa8QI-sRi_g

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by bionsystem »

trh0awayman wrote: post #112
jeroenhd wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new…

> They may have a different taste, but that taste is no better or worse than anyone else's. This is often repeated like it's some universal truth. Enjoying a film (or anything) doesn't mean it's great - this is a very hard to explain idea though, as it's something that is experienced in the core of your being. It's like trying to explain why small talk is important to someone from a low-context culture - there's prob…

I'd be interested if you have link/research that can explain to me why small talk is important (or what criteria makes sense for determining why movie X is better than Y). If you want to bother explaining too I'd happily read it.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by bambax »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #95
londons_explore wrote: post #77

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I suspect the problem is that Google can't fully crawl stackoverflow/github etc. There are plenty of pages which appear unindexed. I find it a lot when doing a google search for a code snippet and getting no results, only to find that exact piece of code/text is in a public github repo or bugreport. Then, the clones copy those pages, and do manage to get indexed. Which in turn means that when you search for something…

They probably need to hard code in some trust levels of sites. I suspect they want everything to be algorithmic through and not involve human judgment. Same content on SO and other site means always prefer SO even if it was indexed second

Yeah that's probably a factor. They don't want to go the route of manual intervention. But they should have other sources of information that they can use.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by spywaregorilla »

NonNefarious wrote: post #58
planb wrote: post #43

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I don't think that's the underlying problem. The youtube algorithm sees people searching for something, watching a video and then liking it. How should it not conclude that the content was useful for the watcher? Probably it even _was_ useful and gave them the info needed to solve their problem. So why did they consume this content on YouTube and not on Stack Overflow? Because that's the way they are used to searchin…

"So why did they consume this content on YouTube and not on Stack Overflow? Because that's the way they are used to searching for answers" No, it's because they searched on a technical topic and the Stack Overflow hits ranked lower than this spam. There's a shitload of spam-bucket, search-trap sites that scrape Stack Overflow and re-host its text in a column full of ads. I mean... pages of hits of them. Now we have a…

Yeah. On top of that google seems to prefer giving videos, categorically. Youtube results are shown first for many, but not all, types of queries. Not entirely clear what the distinction is. But it's not like it alternates video, web link, video, implying that they're sorted in terms of match rate even ignoring gross SEO. It's just video first.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by bionsystem »

logotype wrote: post #87

Free storage space. I wonder how much it costs for Google to store all those 2M videos. Here’s an idea. Encode your data/backups into a video (it’ll display as noise but that doesn’t matter). Store on YouTube for free instead of paying for terabytes on Google Drive.

They will re-encode it and it might not be reversible I guess ? Also they regularly delete videos/channels with no warning and have absolutely 0 concern about backups.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by elrel »

maybe the business model of youtube is broken. if their technology is so weak that it cannot establish "value", then they need to apply human skills. if their business model cannot support the cost of those humans, then perhaps they do not have a right to exist.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by stordoff »

formerly_proven wrote: post #29
onion2k wrote: post #22

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The problem of web content is the search and recommendation systems have no opinion on skill, effort, scholarship or accuracy. They do, but only through the proxy of 'likes' and 'followers'. This leads to a bigger problem with web content, especially with video - people conflate the quality of the video production with the quality of the content. Someone who can make slick, glossy videos full of effects will almost a…

On average production quality seems to correlate inversely with accuracy and actual knowledge on Youtube. It kinda makes sense, most Youtube channels seem to be one-man-shows, if the production quality is good, the dude doing it is basically an A/V person at that point and you're looking at P(A/V person AND knowledgeable in X) vs. P(knowledgeable in X).

I wonder if it's more of a U-shaped curve - one-person/smaller shows follow the trend you suggest, but larger channels can do well in both areas, as they can afford a team of people rather than requiring someone to be proficient in multiple areas.

That would tend to fit with what I've seen, but that's a pretty small/biased sample.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by EliRivers »

jeroenhd wrote: post #79
trh0awayman wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recommendation systems just mirror what the users watch - including their age - and the reality is that 99% of people have horrible taste in just about everything. They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that".

> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new…

If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film

Sounds like by only one measure it was a great film.

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