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Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by akudha »

londons_explore wrote: post #77
bambax wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And surprisingly, Google seems unable or unwilling to filter this stuff out. A little OT, but I find this very surprising too. In general I'm (still) a big fan of Google Search, which I think is amazing and miles above the competition. But it's true that SO clones are everywhere, often in the first five results. How can this be? How hard is it to detect that if the exact same content appeared first on SO, and then…

I suspect the problem is that Google can't fully crawl stackoverflow/github etc. There are plenty of pages which appear unindexed. I find it a lot when doing a google search for a code snippet and getting no results, only to find that exact piece of code/text is in a public github repo or bugreport. Then, the clones copy those pages, and do manage to get indexed. Which in turn means that when you search for something…

I suspect the problem is that Google can't fully crawl stackoverflow/github etc.

How is this possible, given their insane resources and expertise? If they can't crawl fast enough, can't they simply make a deal with Microsoft to get the public data from Github the moment it is created? I assume they have similar deals with other companies (Twitter maybe? for their firehose?).

This particular thing doesn't seem to be a tech limitation. Most likely Google doesn't care enough to fix the issue, they could probably fix it in a week if they wanted to.

At this point, nothing is going to improve until a serious competitor to Google comes along. And I don't see that happening anytime soon, so all the issues that users have with Google are likely going to stay.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by ghusbands »

trh0awayman wrote: post #64
jopsen wrote: post #55

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> they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". I really enjoyed reading your comment :)

My point wasn't to denigrate people for having poor taste or whatever. I don't care what people watch. And I'm not one to talk - I sometimes think of buying one of those McMansions from McMansion Hell. But my point was that the systems are working as intended, and that there is no real failure here - people are seeing a reflection of their peers. It was hard for me to understand it until I saw how my Zoomer cousin wa…

>>> 99% of people have horrible taste in just about everything

> My point wasn't to denigrate people for having poor taste

These are directly contradictory. "horrible taste" is a denigrating term.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by sigio »

seaman1921 wrote: post #48
chekibreki wrote: post #37

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Most developed countries have unlimited quotas for their Internet plans. The US seems to be an exception.

I think he is talking about the youtube API limit..

Probably avoiding the API and doing it with browser-automation

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by lr4444lr »

kristopolous wrote: post #7

The problem of web content is the search and recommendation systems have no opinion on skill, effort, scholarship or accuracy. It's become disconnected so much that metrics of quality are seen as arbitrary, unrelated attributes. There is literally zero reward for hard work. It's actually more likely to hurt than help you because original scholarship or novel insights is definitionally more dissimilar to existing thin…

That's what PageRank was supposed to do, though. 4 year olds may be WATCHING in volume, but they're not LINKING content. Links are the lifeblood of the web, a point majorly abused in the Web2/SPA fad over the last 10 years or so.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by Stunting »

toolz wrote: post #96
stackbutterflow wrote: post #88

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It's important to be intellectually stimulated. Feeling good is not enough. The same way drugs trigger pleasure in our brain but we can't accept a society where the majority is constantly high and a minority runs the show. The moment we give up on pushing people to challenge themselves is the moment our society declines. Moreover democracies require an educated populace in order to survive.

It is important be intellectually stimulated and fiction is one of the worst ways to achieve that. Read a technical book or listen to philosophers debate or brush up on complex historically significant events. At the end of the day art is for entertainment. Whether or not you need the intellectually stimulating element in your art is subjective and unimportant.

I have been pushed in many thought provoking directions because of art. Issac Asimov ignited an interest in math, Kurt Vonnegut books laid a foundation for philosophy pursuits, and an indie film I was dragged to about a patriarch dealing with the inevitably of death completely reset my views on how to pursue life.

Everything is everywhere in everything.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by jrh206 »

kristopolous wrote: post #7

The problem of web content is the search and recommendation systems have no opinion on skill, effort, scholarship or accuracy. It's become disconnected so much that metrics of quality are seen as arbitrary, unrelated attributes. There is literally zero reward for hard work. It's actually more likely to hurt than help you because original scholarship or novel insights is definitionally more dissimilar to existing thin…

YouTube have begun asking people for their opinion on videos in quick surveys.

Every so often (for me, every 2 days or so) there is a blue prompt with a video you watched recently. "What did you think of this video?" You're asked for a rating from 1 to 5, and then you can provide a little more data to contextualise your rating. For instance, if you vote 5, you're presented with a list of adjectives like "heart-warming", "motivational", "entertaining", etc, and you can choose as many as you like. If you vote 1, you're asked "did you regret watching this video?"

YouTube are optimising for user time on site, not time on video, so they use these surveys to steer people away from videos that you might binge but regret, and leave YouTube.

Right now, at least, the surveys have an enormous impact on which videos are pushed by the algorithm. I use the surveys personally to tailor my recommendations (and try to push creators who I think deserve more views). That is, I basically answer them honestly.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by JKCalhoun »

jeroenhd wrote: post #79
trh0awayman wrote: post #41

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Recommendation systems just mirror what the users watch - including their age - and the reality is that 99% of people have horrible taste in just about everything. They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that".

> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new…

I think I understand the comment you are responding to.

There is a difference between a great film and a terrible film — though both can be entertaining. The great film will change you, change the way you think, spur you to action, or change the way films are made. It's not just about taste.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by Stunting »

kristopolous wrote: post #7

The problem of web content is the search and recommendation systems have no opinion on skill, effort, scholarship or accuracy. It's become disconnected so much that metrics of quality are seen as arbitrary, unrelated attributes. There is literally zero reward for hard work. It's actually more likely to hurt than help you because original scholarship or novel insights is definitionally more dissimilar to existing thin…

"There is literally zero reward for hard work. It's actually more likely to hurt than help you because original scholarship or novel insights is definitionally more dissimilar to existing things than low effort derivative spam."

I use social media quite effectively within my industry circles to promote myself and stay relevant. It's a grind, but 100% get a ROI in the form of brand awareness leading to more work opportunities.

I disagree that the formula "make something good and reap rewards" has ever been effective outside of lucky breaks. If the reward of making something good is not enough for an individual, then extra effort is required in the form of market research, promotion, and sales.

The stuff you're seeing seem to exploit the back half, but I have always found that making something good and doing any marketing at all has huge benefits.

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