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Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#101

Post by greatgib »

Always have to check the date for April's fool day when seeing a news like that, but sadly it is not...

When you think that gitlab started as an open source alternative to the closed world of GitHub, and was free as in "free speech". And then, little by little it becomes the same thing. Less and less things not in premium plan and less affordable plans. Now, they are ok to use as-is a Microsoft editor, that is free as in "free core" and is in the straight line of the EEE strategy.

So, for me, each time it is less and less reasons to use gitlab and better to use directly GitHub, for better performances anyway...

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

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Post by nemothekid »

tealpod wrote: post #92
zarzavat wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft may have a dominant position in developer tooling, but they don’t have a monopoly. A well-funded team could create a compelling competitor to VS Code. The issue is that there’s no money to be made duplicating the effort that has gone into VS Code when VS Code is open source. Even Google doesn’t seem to care about entering that space.

Google is weird, they want to conquer Cloud market but they dont do anything like VSCode or Github in dev community. In 10 years Google regret not buying Github.

>In 10 years Google regret not buying Github.

They regretted it the day it was announced.

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#103

Post by thiht »

DeathArrow wrote: post #65

I want to own the code, own the software, own the tools (IDE, compiler etc) and also be the only one who controls them. And I want to also develop fast, not wait for some goddamn web app. And no, I don't need to code on my phone or tablet while travelling to Bahamas.

So don’t use it? This is an additional feature for people that want to use it. It doesn’t prevent you from using your own IDE.

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#104

Post by dijit »

greatgib wrote: post #101

Always have to check the date for April's fool day when seeing a news like that, but sadly it is not... When you think that gitlab started as an open source alternative to the closed world of GitHub, and was free as in "free speech". And then, little by little it becomes the same thing. Less and less things not in premium plan and less affordable plans. Now, they are ok to use as-is a Microsoft editor, that is free a…

To be completely fair to Gitlab: reimplementing the same thing but worse isn't exactly fun; gitpods is already doing this basically.

VSCode, as much as I don't personally use it: does have a completely free and open source version in vscodium: https://vscodium.com/

Isn't it better to consolidate efforts on a vscode fork in the event of hostile tactics by Microsoft?

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#105

Post by bibinou »

TekMol wrote: post #59

What is the idea here on how to use it for anything but front end development? When I edit PHP, Python, Ruby, whatever code that is hosted on GitLab via their Web IDE, how am I supposed to see the result when it needs a whole stack with Linux, Apache and MySQL below it to run?

CI.

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#106

Post by bibinou »

dijit wrote: post #104
greatgib wrote: post #101

Always have to check the date for April's fool day when seeing a news like that, but sadly it is not... When you think that gitlab started as an open source alternative to the closed world of GitHub, and was free as in "free speech". And then, little by little it becomes the same thing. Less and less things not in premium plan and less affordable plans. Now, they are ok to use as-is a Microsoft editor, that is free a…

To be completely fair to Gitlab: reimplementing the same thing but worse isn't exactly fun; gitpods is already doing this basically. VSCode, as much as I don't personally use it: does have a completely free and open source version in vscodium: https://vscodium.com/ Isn't it better to consolidate efforts on a vscode fork in the event of hostile tactics by Microsoft?

a fork developed by who?

OP is literally Gitlab admitting they can't build a competitive web editor.

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#107

Post by nix23 »

greatgib wrote: post #101

Always have to check the date for April's fool day when seeing a news like that, but sadly it is not... When you think that gitlab started as an open source alternative to the closed world of GitHub, and was free as in "free speech". And then, little by little it becomes the same thing. Less and less things not in premium plan and less affordable plans. Now, they are ok to use as-is a Microsoft editor, that is free a…

>So, for me, each time it is less and less reasons to use gitlab and better to use directly GitHub, for better performances anyway...

For me it's https://sourcehut.org/ or https://codeberg.org/ but mostly sourcehut

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#108

Post by ohgodplsno »

bibinou wrote: post #106
dijit wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be completely fair to Gitlab: reimplementing the same thing but worse isn't exactly fun; gitpods is already doing this basically. VSCode, as much as I don't personally use it: does have a completely free and open source version in vscodium: https://vscodium.com/ Isn't it better to consolidate efforts on a vscode fork in the event of hostile tactics by Microsoft?

a fork developed by who? OP is literally Gitlab admitting they can't build a competitive web editor.

And ? Should every company yak-shave to satisfy FOSS zealots ? Where does it stop ? Is running Gitlab on Windows a problem ?

Let Gitlab focus on git repositories, project management and devops. Everything else is just a pure waste of time.

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#109

Post by dijit »

bibinou wrote: post #106
dijit wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be completely fair to Gitlab: reimplementing the same thing but worse isn't exactly fun; gitpods is already doing this basically. VSCode, as much as I don't personally use it: does have a completely free and open source version in vscodium: https://vscodium.com/ Isn't it better to consolidate efforts on a vscode fork in the event of hostile tactics by Microsoft?

a fork developed by who? OP is literally Gitlab admitting they can't build a competitive web editor.

A fork by more people than just gitlab is going to be easier than a reimplementation created only by gitlab.

1) It is a product that exists, maintenance is easier than building from scratch in this case.

2) a consolidated effort by many people in maintaining a fork will allow much more effort than gitlab alone can spend.

3) mindshare on how vscode works already exists externally, a new webIDE doesn't have the same level of developer mindshare anyway.

As a paying gitlab customer I'd rather their money be spent on things that actually matter; reimplementing open source tools does not matter.

Re: The Future of the Gitlab Web IDE

#110

Post by polote »

crabmusket wrote: post #47

It's interesting to me that GitLab is adopting a Microsoft product (VS Code) and Microsoft owns a significant competitor in GitHub. Nothing intelligent to say about that other than to wish I'd been a fly on the wall for the discussions about that. > Next, we asked ourselves the question: Do we want to continue to invest in implementing custom features for the Web IDE that ultimately deliver the same value as those al…

Github is not a competitor to Gitlab, they offer some similar services but overall it is not the same value proposition
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