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Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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Right. If you've ever thought somebody sounded weird it's because you're a biggot/racist/sexist/homophobe/other-insult-here and it definitely could not possibly be that the person just sounded a bit strange to you.

The funny part is that I'm a woman myself haha I guess I'm a misogynist!

In my own experience (and being male), I’ve found myself compelled to remind women team members not to be more critical (and/or less forgiving) of each other than they are of male colleagues. Because it happened somewhat regularly.

Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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I also wonder what the correlation might be, between such “wondering” about somebody’s speaking voice and the gender of the speaker.

Right. If you've ever thought somebody sounded weird it's because you're a biggot/racist/sexist/homophobe/other-insult-here and it definitely could not possibly be that the person just sounded a bit strange to you.

It’s less about the thinking and more about the unfiltered blurting out such (when they are personal and/or unkind) thoughts in public.

Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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I also wonder what the correlation might be, between such “wondering” about somebody’s speaking voice and the gender of the speaker.

I don't know. I can off-hand think of exactly two Youtubers that I am familiar with, who frequently get comments about how their voice would make good ASMR audio, etc. One is male (the guy from Far North Bushcraft and Survival) and the other is female (Tibees). shrug

This parent comment didn’t seem to be an obvious complimentary comment, like the one’s you’re referencing.

Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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While the work itself is interesting, I'm also super curious to know how this was typeset. Did NASA have special typewriters with common math symbols, or go through some office with a Linotype or early digital typesetter, or something else?

IBM Selectrics had a symbol ball [𝛼] you could swap for the standard one. It only takes a few seconds to change balls, though when I've seen people doing it they would normally type all the prose on a page, then go back and type all the math. Super/subscripts were done by rolling the paper up and down half a line. The big symbols like the square root were done later with pen and a ruler. Working from a handwritten m…

We had an amazing technical secretary in our Stanford research group (spouse of a Nobel Prize winner). She quickly visualize the order of symbols on the IBM Selectric math ball and typed the equations flawlessly. Then laser printers became affordable in 1980 with various UNIX equation hacks. Until Knuths magnus opus TeX.

Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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Heh, that's a really interesting question. It's easy to forget that not everybody lived in the world of PC's running TeX / LaTeX, and Postscript enabled laser printers, etc. I have no idea how math got typeset back in those days... I'm too young to have any appreciation for that era in that regard.

TeX was specifically written because Knuth was unhappy when his books went from being delicately hand-set by someone to being produced by a computer.

It was the transition of commercial printing technology from "hot lead" typesetting machines (big brothers of the Linotype beasts I helped maintain while in college) to photo-offset, during which the fonts Knuth loved got "left behind" (as so often happens as proprietary tech evolves), that led him to write his own typesetting system. In the early 90s I used both vde with troff and TeX through grad school on a Kaypro 1 running CP/M. TeX was definitely the superior system for the kind of research papers I was writing (Chicago Style cites, mixed Latin and Greek text, annotated bibliographies).

Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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> Johnson showed strong mathematical abilities from an early age. Because Greenbrier County did not offer public schooling for African-American students past the eighth grade... [1] The struggle is real. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson#Early_life

It definitely makes you wonder how many brilliant Black minds were/are wasted due to conditions imposed on them by racism/ws.

Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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I don't know. I can off-hand think of exactly two Youtubers that I am familiar with, who frequently get comments about how their voice would make good ASMR audio, etc. One is male (the guy from Far North Bushcraft and Survival) and the other is female (Tibees). shrug

This parent comment didn’t seem to be an obvious complimentary comment, like the one’s you’re referencing.

I don't see how you get that. Some people do adopt a particular voice when they narrate, and it's neither a good thing nor a bad thing, but it can be interesting.

Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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> Johnson showed strong mathematical abilities from an early age. Because Greenbrier County did not offer public schooling for African-American students past the eighth grade... [1] The struggle is real. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson#Early_life

Although I know Katherine Johnson was African-American, by looking at pictures of her [1] she actually looks white-skinned to me. Was she considered of black ancestry because of the "one-drop rule" in the USA at the time? Or maybe she was more dark-skinned in her youth and it's only in recent color photographs that she looks white?

Honest question, as here in Europe that woman would be considered "white" if judging from her physical appearance alone. Although I know that there is more than skin color to the American concept of "race".

[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Katherin...

Re: I found Katherine Johnson's calculations at NASA [video]

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> Johnson showed strong mathematical abilities from an early age. Because Greenbrier County did not offer public schooling for African-American students past the eighth grade... [1] The struggle is real. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson#Early_life

It definitely makes you wonder how many brilliant Black minds were/are wasted due to conditions imposed on them by racism/ws.

I've thought about this. The United States was the world leader in science and technology in the 20th century. Imagine how much farther we would be right now if more Black Americans had been in PhD programs instead of trying to avoid being murdered.
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