"Seek first to understand, then to be understood." -- habit #5 of the 7 habits of highly successful people
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Why is it traitorous to understand the people you disagree with?
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#12This blog post touches on a topic with far-reaching consequences that I think a lot of people are missing because they are focusing only on the question of abortion, and that is PRIVACY. In a nutshell, Roe makes abortion legal by guaranteeing the privacy of a woman to make that decision with her doctor. If Roe is overturned then it's this assumption of privacy which will have been vacated... and once it is I suspect there will be policy and legislation to exploit the court's striking down of privacy in a way that will be more Orwellian than we can currently imagine.
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#14> The Constitution doesn’t mention abortion. But what about privacy? Well, it doesn’t mention privacy either. That's not true - the 4th amendment protects against unreasonable search and seizure. The search part prevents the police from reading your mail or wiretapping your phones without a warrant (which declares the search reasonable), except illegally.
Well yes, but as much as I am a proponent of both the right to privacy and abortion, the latter doesn't really follow from the former. Just because one has a right to privacy, it doesn't follow that everything done in private is legal. Nor is abortion necessarily private - one could declare one is going to have one, or one could be visibly pregnant and then get an abortion. It would be a bizarre law if abortion was legal only so long as you don't tell anyone about it.
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#15"Seek first to understand, then to be understood." -- habit #5 of the 7 habits of highly successful people
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"It's hard to understand the most extreme position I can think up, which is held by such a small number of people that it's not even really worth discussing."
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#17It is frustrating. I am on one side of the abortion debate, but I understand the other side, yet I have no success in even explaining it to my side.
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I’m confused by your first paragraph. Are you saying a parent should be able to kill a 12 year old?
> Are you saying a parent should be able to kill a 12 year old?
Yes, that is the correct reading.
Note: This is an extreme statement to prompt discussion, not a deeply held belief that everyone must share. It's not that I don't feel this way; but i feel more strongly that this is a question that shows the limits of what the state can do.