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Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by inopinatus »

rkalla wrote: post #32

Does anyone have a good recommendation for a host with a nicely spread out global presence? I am aware of the big players (AWS, Linode, Softlayer, RimuHosting) but they all seem to have shortcomings that don't make anyone particularly ideal and I'd love to avoid a combination of all if I could. I am looking to minimize network latency and maximize disk space with memory and CPU being secondary concerns. More or less…

Since you seem concerned (as I am) about AUS/NZ performance, it's worth repeating the unconfirmed gossip that Amazon have a closed tender out for a pair of Sydney data centers.

Ninefold are also in Sydney and doing a good marketing job, and I know several first-class engineers that have been involved in their setup and have made only positive remarks on their potential (with the usual caveats around Australian market scale being an issue).

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by bigiain »

inopinatus wrote: post #61
rkalla wrote: post #32

Does anyone have a good recommendation for a host with a nicely spread out global presence? I am aware of the big players (AWS, Linode, Softlayer, RimuHosting) but they all seem to have shortcomings that don't make anyone particularly ideal and I'd love to avoid a combination of all if I could. I am looking to minimize network latency and maximize disk space with memory and CPU being secondary concerns. More or less…

Since you seem concerned (as I am) about AUS/NZ performance, it's worth repeating the unconfirmed gossip that Amazon have a closed tender out for a pair of Sydney data centers. Ninefold are also in Sydney and doing a good marketing job, and I know several first-class engineers that have been involved in their setup and have made only positive remarks on their potential (with the usual caveats around Australian market…

I'm cautiously hopeful about Ninefold, but keep in mind they had some serious (multiple day) downtime a month or so back. I'm sure they'll get on top of their operations soon enough, hopefully before Amazon becomes the local gorilla-in-the-corner in the local market...

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by DiabloD3 »

swah wrote: post #45
DiabloD3 wrote: post #41

Heh, the performance comparison linked to in that article is kinda worthless since it leaves out RapidXen, one of the largest bare bones VPS providers.

Rapidxen is more expensive than Linode when you get to 512mb ram... that can't be budget :)

Yes, but Linode oversells their machines more. You get what you pay for.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by organico »

inopinatus wrote: post #61
rkalla wrote: post #32

Does anyone have a good recommendation for a host with a nicely spread out global presence? I am aware of the big players (AWS, Linode, Softlayer, RimuHosting) but they all seem to have shortcomings that don't make anyone particularly ideal and I'd love to avoid a combination of all if I could. I am looking to minimize network latency and maximize disk space with memory and CPU being secondary concerns. More or less…

Since you seem concerned (as I am) about AUS/NZ performance, it's worth repeating the unconfirmed gossip that Amazon have a closed tender out for a pair of Sydney data centers. Ninefold are also in Sydney and doing a good marketing job, and I know several first-class engineers that have been involved in their setup and have made only positive remarks on their potential (with the usual caveats around Australian market…

There are others outside of Sydney too - OrionVM, Dynomesh / Serversaurus off the top of my head.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by rkalla »

nl wrote: post #59
rkalla wrote: post #32

Does anyone have a good recommendation for a host with a nicely spread out global presence? I am aware of the big players (AWS, Linode, Softlayer, RimuHosting) but they all seem to have shortcomings that don't make anyone particularly ideal and I'd love to avoid a combination of all if I could. I am looking to minimize network latency and maximize disk space with memory and CPU being secondary concerns. More or less…

Rackspace's CDN (used for Rackspace Files) is Akamai. This is orders of magnitude better than Singapore for AUS/NZ. Actually, for some people in AUS, West Coast US will be better than Singapore because some ISPs (eg TGP) route via the US to save money. [1][2] Edit: Of course, Amazon are supposed to be launching EC2 (or just a CDN node?) in Australia sometime soon. [1] http://akb.id.au/2011/amazon-ec2-latency-australi…

Nick, I really appreciate the info and the links -- didn't know about the AUS gossip buzzing around AWS, that is excellent news.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by pxtreme75 »

I had a very poor experience on the past with a cheap hosting provider. Actually it really does not matter if it is shared hosting or a VPS -- at the end of the day you get the service you paid for. Currently we use Rackspacecloud with very good results. Their control panel has a few glitches but my support experience was out of this world.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by sathyabhat »

ntoshev wrote: post #30
sathyabhat wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, and not to forget, the free tier offer expires in November

I believe it expires an year after you started using it. Do you have a reference saying it won't be available for anyone after November 2011?

Ah, you're right, my bad.

Relevant part of the terms:

These free tiers are only available to new AWS customers and are available for 12 months following your AWS sign-up date

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by pwaring »

pyre wrote: post #48
pwaring wrote: post #18

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I've run all my personal services (email, web sites, screen sessions etc.) off two Bytemark[1] virtual machines with 500MB of RAM each and the only problems I've experienced have been one or two 'high up' problems such as two core routers going down at the same time - i.e. nothing to do with contention. If you need more RAM, you just pay the extra monthly/annual fee for the next plan up and reboot the machine. I pay…

> I've run all my personal services (email I've been considering getting off of Google for my email hosting, but I remember there being a number of issues with virtual hosts getting their entire IP blocks blacklisted. Is this an issue anymore?

I've never had a problem, and I suspect it's more likely to be shared hosting which ends up getting blacklisted due to people installing insecure scripts.

If you use a half-decent provider who quickly investigates any unusual traffic on their network then I can't see it being a problem.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by pyre »

pwaring wrote: post #68
pyre wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've run all my personal services (email I've been considering getting off of Google for my email hosting, but I remember there being a number of issues with virtual hosts getting their entire IP blocks blacklisted. Is this an issue anymore?

I've never had a problem, and I suspect it's more likely to be shared hosting which ends up getting blacklisted due to people installing insecure scripts. If you use a half-decent provider who quickly investigates any unusual traffic on their network then I can't see it being a problem.

Thanks. Maybe I'll take the plunge then.

On a side note, it was AWS getting blacklisted that I was remembering hearing about (though it was at least a couple of years ago).

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by gmac »

kd1221 wrote: post #11

Can anyone else comment on experiences with Linode (and equivalent alternatives)? I'm considering moving a group of servers off expensive dedicated hosting ($400/server) to a VPS service. I've looked at Amazon EC2 but they don't seem to have a sweet spot for my needs.

I've found Linode fantastic: fast connection, reliable service, reasonable disk speed (for a VPS), responsive support (rarely needed), decent control panel, and continually improving value. My servers are mainly in their London data centre.
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