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Big Fat Websites (2021)

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Re: Big Fat Websites (2021)

#41

Post by nixcraft »

detay wrote: post #11

And they have to have a publish date. (You wouldn't believe the number of blog posts that do not have one)

I agree. When I started with nixCraft, the first feedback was that visitors wanted to know the last updated date. Apart from that, having comments, RSS feed and newsletter subscription is essential. Please don't say follow me on Twitter or FB. That is like giving out free advertisements to social media, which hides your content from all followers who choose to follow you because of your blog post. I have over 250k+ followers on both FB and Twitter, but as soon as they see a link to my blog post, promote this post button appears.So please encourage your RSS and email newsletter subscription. Keep independent web alive.

Re: Big Fat Websites (2021)

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Post by [deleted] »

leokennis wrote: post #30
rimliu wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most web pages are not hand crafted page by page, > they're part of a CMS with a million other capabilities Why should it matter? By this token a car should weight about as much as the a factory that made it.

Beautiful analogy.

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Re: Big Fat Websites (2021)

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Post by westcort »

This bookmarklet is one way to cut out the cruft:

javascript:void%20function()%7Bjavascript:(function()%7Bvar%20a=Math.floor,b=document.querySelectorAll(%22p,%20title%22),c=%5B%5D,e=%22%22,f=%22%22,g=%22%22,h=0,k=0,l=%22%22,m=%22%22,n=window.open(%22%22,%22_blank%22);for(var%20d%20in%20b)%7Bvar%20i=b%5Bd%5D.textContent;i%26%26(c=c+%22%5Cn%22+i)%7Dfor(f=c,e=f.replace(/%5Cn/g,%22%20%3Cbr%3E%3C/br%3E%20%22),g=e.split(%22%20%22),h=0;h%3Cg.length;h++)k=a(g%5Bh%5D.length/3)+1,l=%22%3Cspan%20style='font-weight:bolder'%3E%22+g%5Bh%5D.substring(0,k)+%22%3C/span%3E%3Cspan%20style='font-weight:lighter'%3E%22+g%5Bh%5D.substring(k,g%5Bh%5D.length)+%22%3C/span%3E%20%22,%22.%22==g%5Bh%5D.substring(g%5Bh%5D.length-1,g%5Bh%5D.length)%26%26(l+=%22%3Cspan%20style='color:red'%3E%20%20%3C/span%3E%22),m+=l;n.document.write(%22%3Chtml%3E%3Cp%20style='background-color:%23EDD1B0;font-size:40;line-height:200%25;font-family:Arial'%3E%22+m+%22%3C/p%3E%3C/html%3E%22)%7D)()%7D();

And another one that doesn’t make bold text on the first third of words:

javascript:void%20function()%7Bjavascript:(function()%7Bvar%20a=Math.floor,b=document.querySelectorAll(%22p,%20title%22),c=%5B%5D,e=%22%22,f=%22%22,g=%22%22,h=0,k=0,l=%22%22,m=%22%22,n=window.open(%22%22,%22_blank%22);for(var%20d%20in%20b)%7Bvar%20i=b%5Bd%5D.textContent;i%26%26(c=c+%22%5Cn%22+i)%7Dfor(f=c,e=f.replace(/%5Cn/g,%22%20%3Cbr%3E%3C/br%3E%20%22),g=e.split(%22%20%22),h=0;h%3Cg.length;h++)k=a(g%5Bh%5D.length/3)+1,l=%22%3Cspan%20style='font-weight:light'%3E%22+g%5Bh%5D.substring(0,k)+%22%3C/span%3E%3Cspan%20style='font-weight:light'%3E%22+g%5Bh%5D.substring(k,g%5Bh%5D.length)+%22%3C/span%3E%20%22,%22.%22==g%5Bh%5D.substring(g%5Bh%5D.length-1,g%5Bh%5D.length)%26%26(l+=%22%3Cspan%20style='color:red'%3E%20%20%3C/span%3E%22),m+=l;n.document.write(%22%3Chtml%3E%3Cp%20style='background-color:%23EDD1B0;font-size:40;line-height:200%25;font-family:Arial'%3E%22+m+%22%3C/p%3E%3C/html%3E%22)%7D)()%7D();

Re: Big Fat Websites (2021)

#45

Post by bcrosby95 »

rimliu wrote: post #25
fleddr wrote: post #22

"Text is small" so a website should be extremely light in resources is a really simplistic way to go about things. Most web pages are not hand crafted page by page, they're part of a CMS with a million other capabilities. Or, the team creating the website was under cost pressure and went for some performance-compromised "good enough" solution. Or, the website is old (true for almost all of them) and no longer under s…

> Most web pages are not hand crafted page by page, > they're part of a CMS with a million other capabilities Why should it matter? By this token a car should weight about as much as the a factory that made it.

My electric kettle recently broke. When I got into the guts of it, I noticed there were a lot of weird components that weren't really used, or didn't seem that useful. When I searched youtube for help, I found out those components were for kettles with a physical on/off switch. Mine didn't have the switch, but everything else on the inside was still there.

Re: Big Fat Websites (2021)

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Post by grishka »

fleddr wrote: post #22

"Text is small" so a website should be extremely light in resources is a really simplistic way to go about things. Most web pages are not hand crafted page by page, they're part of a CMS with a million other capabilities. Or, the team creating the website was under cost pressure and went for some performance-compromised "good enough" solution. Or, the website is old (true for almost all of them) and no longer under s…

A CMS, fundamentally, is a server application that pulls things out of the database, puts them into templates, and spits the resulting HTML out to the browser. There is no inherent reason why a page that comes out of a feature-rich CMS has to be bloated.

Re: Big Fat Websites (2021)

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Post by andai »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #45
rimliu wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most web pages are not hand crafted page by page, > they're part of a CMS with a million other capabilities Why should it matter? By this token a car should weight about as much as the a factory that made it.

My electric kettle recently broke. When I got into the guts of it, I noticed there were a lot of weird components that weren't really used, or didn't seem that useful. When I searched youtube for help, I found out those components were for kettles with a physical on/off switch. Mine didn't have the switch, but everything else on the inside was still there.

That's funny. It must have been cheaper to use the board they already had than to make a new one with less stuff on it.

Re: Big Fat Websites (2021)

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Post by TAKEMYMONEY »

Minimalism is "subtract until it breaks" and this is reaching the breaking point.

Of course, we all hate popovers, slow websites etc, we've known this for decades.

This website has no identity other than an emoji and the fact that it's purposefully lacking design beyond basic text styling. It looks like 1000 other sites, at a glance I can't tell what this website or article are about.

And there are still elements I want to get rid of! "Toast me" button, "Like and subscribe!," the ad for the CMS, analytics script etc.

Re: Big Fat Websites (2021)

#50

Post by wrycoder »

jrwoodruff wrote: post #27
wrycoder wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or if you’re not, just use a cron to keep the dates fresh

But... then what's the point of a date at all? May as well not have one.

I should have used /sarc

The idea was to fool people and bots into thinking it was fresh!

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