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A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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That site is nothing but a ad-ridden, affiliate link stuffing, spam site with zero quality. A good search engine would not list useless garbage like that.

That is an accurate criticism and I agree. “This list of laser printers contains only inkjet printers” is not.

What makes you think that you got the same top result as the original commenter?

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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In 2010-2012, google results were peak content farm stuff too. Then they fought it actively, in 2013 they announced that they changed a lot in their relevance calculations (did they call it “project Panda”? For some reason I remembered it being called that) and it really helped, and in 2013-2015 it was a golden age of search results. Content farms that worked by stuffing keywords and working in rings to boost their p…

> Time to build a good bookmark collection, I guess.

There are uBlock filter lists that help filter out generated content from search results, such as https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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Imagine how nice it would be to have a filter feature in search engines. Filter by domain or by content using regexps.

I would like to be able to vote on search results and add certain sites to my default blocklist. I don't understand Google doesn't do that; crowdsourcing is exactly their thing, and this would be something that provides tons of valuable info to them yet would also be loved by their users.

I suspect such a system would be quickly gamed by spammers. With the bot-nets and other resources they have at their disposal, they would be able to flag and drown out legitimate sites or competitor sites in order to boost their own. Then the problem changes to being able to differentiate legitimate/regular users from spammers/black-hat SEO practitioners.

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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This pretty much sums up my experience too. It's been downhill since all the subreddit bans a couple years ago. I miss r/consumeproduct.

> It's been downhill since all the subreddit bans a couple years ago. Out of the list on Wikipedia [1], the utter majority of banned popular subreddits were far-right, terrorist, violence-oriented or dealt with questionably or outright illegal sexual material (jailbait, fappening). As for r/consumeproduct, there's a Google doc floating around detailing its links to the far-right and transphobes [2]. Doesn't sound sur…

The vast range of content being banned (largely by subject and tone) created a chilling effect throughout the entire site. Also, a lot of good posters were also bad posters, so after they left because they couldn't talk about how much they hated fat people, they also stopped posting detailed reviews about e.g. laser printers.

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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I think the problem is that there is no other way to provide feedback to Google other than clicking on links. I used to search on Google without an account. Then I created a phony account at work to see if there is an improvement in my searches (because it should be "learning", right?). And after some months... nope, or at least it's not noticeable. How does Google know what I like, what I search or the content I wan…

If there was any other obvious way to influence google it would instantly be gamed. Both my companies tried to increase their relevance in certain keywords and by competitors reporting their websites.

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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The rant is not so much about laser printers, but about search engines and crappy SEO. I mean, it starts with a laser printer problem he has, but he doesn't blame his printer. He blames Google for not helping him find a better laser printer. And I checked: DuckDuckGo has a different top result, but the same problem: an article about top 10 laser printers that contains only ink jet printers. These are crap articles th…

Imagine how nice it would be to have a filter feature in search engines. Filter by domain or by content using regexps.

You can filter domains, at least. You can add "-pinterest.com" or just "-pinterest" to clean a lot of crap out of your searches. But I've always wanted a regexp search. Just a regexp, absolutely no algorithmic "help" of any sort whatsoever, and I've wanted that since Alta Vista was the go-to search engine.

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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Non-mainstream search results available here: https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=buy+laser+printer (self-disclosure: Mojeek team member)

Searching for "large format laser printer" also yields lots of inkjet printer SEO driven results on you site.

Specific examples? What country/language settings did you use?

I got (for UK/English settings)

Google: 5 Ads followed by https://smallbiztrends.com https://www.printerland.co.uk

DDG: 1 Ads followed by: https://plumbaroakland.com https://smallbiztrends.com

Mojeek: https://foodisforfuel.com https://www.cadtutor.net

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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The rant is not so much about laser printers, but about search engines and crappy SEO. I mean, it starts with a laser printer problem he has, but he doesn't blame his printer. He blames Google for not helping him find a better laser printer. And I checked: DuckDuckGo has a different top result, but the same problem: an article about top 10 laser printers that contains only ink jet printers. These are crap articles th…

It's the same everywhere. Amazon and Google are absolutely worhtless for anything that is slightly not mainstream. What I personally do is, when I need some hardware I go to a local hardware shop for professionals and ask/buy from them. I am probably not getting the best deal, but it's better than no deal whatsoever or exhausting myself searching for a solution, or buying something in the internet that is not worth i…

Ah, but then you have to make a phone call. I'd rather die than resort to such drastic measures.

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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The rant is not so much about laser printers, but about search engines and crappy SEO. I mean, it starts with a laser printer problem he has, but he doesn't blame his printer. He blames Google for not helping him find a better laser printer. And I checked: DuckDuckGo has a different top result, but the same problem: an article about top 10 laser printers that contains only ink jet printers. These are crap articles th…

Imagine how nice it would be to have a filter feature in search engines. Filter by domain or by content using regexps.

Kagi allows you to set the priority of domains, as well as some other tuning. Though it is in beta at the moment, and the plan to charge for use eventually.

Re: A rant about search engine results for large format laser printers [video]

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Put your search in quotes. Putting just one term / word in quotes makes it an non-optional search term btw.

Doesn't always work. For example Google seems to "auto correct" Gasgerd, a widely used nickname for former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder to Gasherd with and without quotes.

With quotes it gives you the option to bypass the auto correction and search for the literal word.
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