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The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by aidenn0 »

samd wrote: post #57

Does anyone else get the feeling that the entire automotive industry could be disrupted by a company that focused on design, usability, and modern technology in their car interiors? It seems to me you could replace just about every car's dashboard with an iPad and already be light-years ahead of the industry standard. In fact the problem seems to get worse as you add more technology and money; if Top Gear is any indi…

It is hard (but doable) to make a car. It is nearly impossible to make a car that is cost-competitive and reliable.

Just one item: in order to cost-compete you need very high volume, and that means putting huge amounts of capital at risk. Automotive engineers care about component pricing at the sub-cent level since volumes are so high.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by sliverstorm »

samd wrote: post #57

Does anyone else get the feeling that the entire automotive industry could be disrupted by a company that focused on design, usability, and modern technology in their car interiors? It seems to me you could replace just about every car's dashboard with an iPad and already be light-years ahead of the industry standard. In fact the problem seems to get worse as you add more technology and money; if Top Gear is any indi…

Perhaps it could be- but the trouble is, building a car is still so much more than just making an nifty interface.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by BetterThanThou »

Finally a company that does not listen to the idiots who think they know something!

IE6 is a great standard. Keep your CSS tips and tricks for your personal website. IE6 is a good default to work around.

Anyone who says otherwise 1.) is trying to sell you something (probably web design) or 2.) is ignorant and hipster.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by mkopinsky »

cnvogel wrote: post #28
rmoriz wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason in Germany is mainly SAP (because of its popularity here) Their Netweaver product was build with lots of ActiveX + OS stuff that's so proprietary, that it will not work with even IE7. Of course SAP has released upgrades but companies have to pay for it or change larger parts of their ERP to be able to apply the upgrades. As ERPs are propably upgraded once per decade, this will take some time... From variou…

Working in a ~50000 employee company that shall remain nameless I can give you another datapoint from "big companies" out there: We only got IE8 (on WinXP, Win7 will not launch for another year or two) this year. And before that it was whatever IE version ships with WinXP. The alternative we can use is a Firefox that has not been updated since its rollout in 2009. And of course you are not allowed to use other than c…

Here's what I don't get. (Maybe someone here can help answer this.) My company, with 18,000 employees, recently decided to upgrade workstations from IE6 to IE7. It wasn't entirely seamless - employees still had to double-click a desktop icon to kick off the upgrade. What I don't understand is why they upgraded to IE7. Once you're going through the friction of doing an upgrade at all, why not go all the way? Is the retraining coefficient that much more for IE8 (or 9) vs. IE7?

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by ricardobeat »

samd wrote: post #57

Does anyone else get the feeling that the entire automotive industry could be disrupted by a company that focused on design, usability, and modern technology in their car interiors? It seems to me you could replace just about every car's dashboard with an iPad and already be light-years ahead of the industry standard. In fact the problem seems to get worse as you add more technology and money; if Top Gear is any indi…

Tesla has already done that to Model S: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/2615-Model-S-D...

Except that the interface is... kludgy, at best.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by ricardobeat »

troymc wrote: post #64
samd wrote: post #57

Does anyone else get the feeling that the entire automotive industry could be disrupted by a company that focused on design, usability, and modern technology in their car interiors? It seems to me you could replace just about every car's dashboard with an iPad and already be light-years ahead of the industry standard. In fact the problem seems to get worse as you add more technology and money; if Top Gear is any indi…

Ford seems to be taking usability and integration with our modern "technology" (in the consumer electronics sense) quite seriously. They even have a website going into the details: http://www.ford.com/technology/

Since we're talking IE6 here, we should note that SYNC is made by Microsoft. Don't panic.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by [deleted] »

BetterThanThou wrote: post #74

Finally a company that does not listen to the idiots who think they know something! IE6 is a great standard. Keep your CSS tips and tricks for your personal website. IE6 is a good default to work around. Anyone who says otherwise 1.) is trying to sell you something (probably web design) or 2.) is ignorant and hipster.

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Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by keithpeter »

garethsprice wrote: post #56
antimora wrote: post #10

For some reason the corporate world is still stuck with IE6. Just recently we were dealing with a large corporation that was still using IE6 throughout the company and our web app had to support this browser.

Not too mysterious. Many large corporations have invested $x million in proprietary software where the cost is amortized by the beancounters over a number of years. Some of this proprietary software was written in ActiveX, VBscript or some other technology that means that the vendor only officially supports it operating under IE6. It might run fine under newer IE versions or other browsers, but doing so would void th…

Just wondering, virtual machine running XP/IE6 then a new desktop for other newer things for some staff who need them?

Too hard to manage?

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