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Post by gtirloni »

jnovek wrote: post #393
johnchristopher wrote: post #350

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Maybe something like Steam Greenlit for Netflix. But as some have pointed out already Netflix is in the streaming business, not the risky content creation business. (I still fucking miss the OA and Sense8 if you follow my comment history)

The OA, in particular, was one that I loved. It lived in this niche that I really like. Abstract supernatural horror? Lynchian stuff. Dark was around the same time as well. My perception of the untouchable Netflix was changed when they cancelled The OA. For one, I didn’t really trust them with multi-season serialized content anymore and, two I started to notice good content on other streaming service. I sort of wonde…

I had that OA moment. I loved it and they cancelled for no apparent reason when there were so much more to be told. It made me wary of getting involved in a Netflix story again.

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Post by d136o »

55555 wrote: post #200

I’m bored of Netflix. They have simply gone the assembly line direction instead of the direction of art, at least for some big niches. For example, every True Crime docuseries on Netflix is the same crap. Once you’ve seen three, you’ve seen them all. They get each cop involved in a big empty room, sit them on a solitary chair, put a dramatic light above them, and shoot them in 4k. Then they direct it at a pace to bor…

I thought I noticed this in one of the Netflix movies I watched with my wife:

* audio sounded odd, like it was dubbed but it did match facial expressions. It lacked any reference to culture or geography, like it was made to simply swap out sound tracks in another language. * the settings were minimized: house, hospital, vet… and not much else. This also was unnerving because it felt like it may as well have been shot in another planet.

I assumed the dialogue and the sets lack of references resulted from an effort to make it really easy to just swap audio tracks and launch it in another country with as little work on their end. I understand they’d want to do that but their cookie cutter formula resulted in a terrible movie.

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

vimy wrote: post #430
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #422

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That would be great ... if human interactions happened in a vacuum then sure, nothing matters. But that is not how humans work. Every interaction matters, every interaction affects our brains, affects what we think is right and wrong. You are free to reject everything, and anything, does not mean reality will bend to your will.

Your ideology =/= reality. Goodbye.

> That would be great ... if human interactions happened in a vacuum then sure, nothing matters. But that is not how humans work. Every interaction matters, every interaction affects our brains, affects what we think is right and wrong.

That is reality, not ideology. That is precisely the point I am making, actions have consequences.

Please point out __which__ part of my comment is ideologically fueled, because I see just facts.

Maybe you will grow up some day, probably not.

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Post by scarface74 »

tjr225 wrote: post #417
scarface74 wrote: post #362

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The MCU by itself has made over $25 billion world wide and that’s not counting the Fox/Marvel series that Disney now owns. They must be doing something right. And that’s just in theaters. That’s not counting money made via syndication, licensing, home video, etc

Just because it makes a lot of money doesn’t mean it’s not drivel.

Well, maybe if it is the most popular content, have you thought that your taste may not be inline with the majority?

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Post by rospaya »

supreme_berry wrote: post #281
aqme28 wrote: post #259

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Do you have any examples?

Nearly every video is extreme left propaganda like black actor playing English queen Charlotte. That was so dumb and disgusting to watch that a lot of people canceled subscription on that time.

Oh how I would love people to actually know what "extreme left" meant before being insulted by the massive propaganda coup which is a black person playing a historically white person. Kind of like that critically slammed and forgettable propaganda piece Hamilton, right?

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Post by m3047 »

pvarangot wrote: post #78
orzig wrote: post #44

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I can't match the near-unhinged brilliance of the above comment, but I'll add that many meditation traditions encourage serenity by inspecting the details of the ordinary instead of a constant grasping for new stimulation.

It's also of note that no meditation tradition drinks sours.

I brew. I've known a lot of weird fanatics. A friend who also brews and is serious enough to do meditation retreats has gotten into a thing where he's making beer harvested with wild yeast in turn harvested from ginger root... some tradition somewhere he says.

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Post by scyzoryk_xyz »

Fnoord wrote: post #390
scyzoryk_xyz wrote: post #198

“Content is King” We all know this, Netflix knows this. And yet for some reason for years they have been aiming for quantity and not quality. Money is not enough in this department and baseball metaphors don’t do justice illustrating just how hard it is to put together a team that has that special thing going on. Some would argue it’s impossible - teams like the one behind Better Call Saul are just extremely rare and…

Netflix is 'all you can eat', and all you can eat is about quantity ('good enough'). Also, it is a given you are not going to like/want everything. The quantity is in such abundance that they try to please everyone somewhat. I suppose you could call it spreading.

No doubt about it. The question is for how long will 'all you can eat' be sustainable in the longer term. Only so long until everyone will have had their crappy experience, loses trust and/or desire to continue paying, brand becomes tarnished etc.

I'm not saying this is an end to Netflix - losing your competitive advantage and having others catch up doesn't put you out of the race. Their brand is huge.

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Post by conradfr »

gpayan wrote: post #284

Interesting how we don't hear much about "big data" which - we were told back in 2013 starting with House of Cards [1] - was key to Netflix's success in picking new shows to produce. This part of the article is telling: >It’s why five or so years ago, anybody with a hint of success in TV (or movies) started getting a call from their rep saying, basically, “Netflix would like to write you a big check.” 1. https://www.…

I'm not sure you really needed Big Data to bet on an adapted successful TV show with a successfully actor directed by a successfully director.

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Post by scyzoryk_xyz »

afpx wrote: post #356
ghaff wrote: post #346

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Nobody knows how to reliably create "quality"--the definition of which will vary by person. Take a dozen of the top quality series on Netflix or streaming services generally and I'll probably be meh on at least half of them. Add to that the fact that for many, TV, whether streaming or otherwise, is essentially background and they'll immediately cancel your service if all they have is a relative handful of prestige mu…

HBO seems to do it.

They do, but it's very expensive and very slow. That kind of development culture requires discipline and quality control.

People like to throw this 'you can't cater to everyone's tastes' bit whenever talking about culture/film/game development. But everyone knows there is fast food and there is michelin. The latter requires a lot of hard work, and it is very hard to replicate at scale.

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Post by hyperman1 »

scarface74 wrote: post #353
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #274

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This seems like a mirror to the other classic apocryphal story where the IBM ask a new Japanese manufacturer to only have a 3/1000 defect rate and the Japanese seem alarmed by this request. When the product arrives there's a seperate little box with the defective items that have been manufactured seperately to meet the spec. (There's also the "half of my advertising is effective, I don't know which half" line)

The half of advertising is effective trope hasn’t been true on the internet for over a decade. Advertisers on the internet know exactly how effective their advertising is.

Most of the internet ads I see are for stuff not available in my country, and if they even bother to translate, it's pretty random what language they choose. Just my IP adress or browser heathers should tell em both. That's assuming the product category is something I care for.

If they know exactly how effective their advertising is, they have too many dollars they want to get rid of.

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