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Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

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Post by katbyte »

cypress66 wrote: post #298
katbyte wrote: post #268

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Manuals have an advantage in some situations (off roading, transmission doesn’t overheat, better performance with skill, repairability) and autos have theirs (easy, better fuel economy) If I commuted to an office every day I’d get an auto (actually these days an EV), but working in the bush/backroads? Manual

All those points, except for repairability, are arguable for modern gearboxes such as DSG.

Modern autos still have the overheating issue? Not an issue on road, becomes an issue offroad when your really pushing the vehicle

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Post by katbyte »

NovemberWhiskey wrote: post #295
katbyte wrote: post #261

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We’ll car companies are making it harder and harder to buy manuals so of course it’s disappearing. Can’t speak to American brands but the Toyota 4Runner stopped making a manual trim 20 years ago and the Tacoma while it has one, only 5% of them produced are manual on limited trims making it really hard for people who want one to actually get it without a lot of effort. How much is it people don’t want it/never learned…

Even with performance car enthusiast models, like say the BMW M4, the take rate for the manual is super low. This article ... https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/07/save-manuals-give-... ... is from 2015, but says that the M4 couple was 83:17 in favor of the automatic gearbox; and I doubt things have gotten better since then. Automatic gearboxes (whether torque converters, CVT or dual-clutch) have just gotten much…

That stat is for America, not Europe, where the stats are reversed: https://blog.getmyparking.com/2020/01/20/why-does-europe-pre...

But you are right in that as cars electrify manuals will be less and less common. Not to mention emission regulations are pushing manufacturers to only produce autos

Manuals are still better in some rare situations imho like off-roading where just not having to worry about trans temps is a win

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Post by ASalazarMX »

nemothekid wrote: post #460
ASalazarMX wrote: post #417

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> Sure, but it seems like this makes phones thinner and lighter and consumers want that Or Apple devices are also a tech fashion statement, so their loyal consumers will put up with everything Apple changes. iPhones could show off their sleek design if they weren't designed to need a case. People definitely wanted bigger screens and batteries for years, and Apple was very reluctant until the iPhone 10. I'm sure many…

>Or Apple devices are also a tech fashion statement, so their loyal consumers will put up with everything Apple changes. This argument is tired; it doesn't explain why every other manufacturer on the planet has also gone down this route. It's just an argument that helps nerds feel good (those other guys aren't real techies , like me, they only care about fashion ).

Why are there so many imitation Louis Vuitton bags? If Apple makes a fashion phone with an hourglass shape, and they make money, others will copy it. just as Apple copied bigger screens and batteries, but labeled it as "Pro" or "Max" so following a trend felt new.

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Post by fillipvt »

This is interesting.

If anything, with this I've learned that companies like Framework have a huge advantage. If that space ever manages to create a 'fixable' phone a-la Framework laptop, it's gonna work on so many levels for so many different people and regulators.

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Post by mindslight »

sokoloff wrote: post #540
mindslight wrote: post #415

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Yeah, the "could" in my comment was only because I already own the tools, and I had just done the brakes on the other car. I might take the excuse to buy a new jack though, so I can lift up to the jack stands without needing to cheat with blocks. The funny thing is they also wanted $700 to adjust the valve clearances. This is expensive (it's the stealership after all), but I might have said yes just to have one less…

I read your comment that way and was trying to agree/amplify rather than trying to correct pricing.

Cheers! I meant the same with my reply. My original "could" made it sound like I might not to do it myself.

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Post by pilsetnieks »

msrenee wrote: post #525
pilsetnieks wrote: post #447

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An Omega Seamaster weighs anywhere between 100 and 200 grams, depending on the model. Extrapolating that to the size of a phone, you'd have to lug around a 1kg brick. Now, I'm not a fan of the trend of thinness and lightness above all, I'd prefer a slightly beefier phone but one that weighs a kilo is ridiculous.

Why do you go immediately for an Omega Seamaster? There are a thousand other waterproof watches out there with removable batteries that don't weigh near as much as a dive watch. It's rated for 300 meters. I don't think anyone is expecting a phone to be thin and light and waterproof under 300 meters of water.

Because it's well known enough. 200g is the heavier end, sure, but 100g seems pretty light for a wristwatch anyway. The Seiko 5 is one of the lightest watches at about 70 grams, and that thing is tiny. That's to say, the Seamaster isn't really much more heavier than others, unless you're going for some mickey mouse watches.

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Post by msrenee »

lisper wrote: post #526
mynameisvlad wrote: post #515

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Dive computers with replaceable batteries 100% have user-serviceable o-rings that need lubing and eventual replacement. My Shearwater came with both grease and 2 replacement o-rings. HP hoses and o-rings also can and do fail, and, once again, divers are trained to look for signs like the rubber bubbling. There is also not really a difference between the o-rings used in HP and LP hoses and equipment outside the size,…

> need lubing and eventual replacement Yes. Every couple of years. After being subjected to a lot of pressure cycling. If you do nothing but take it into the shower or a swimming pool the o-rings will last longer than the batteries.

Chlorine isn't friendly to o-rings, but I'm not sure where someone would put their phone while in a pool anyways. Mine comes in the tub with me for soaks for sure though.

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Post by runamok »

panda888888 wrote: post #495
thedougd wrote: post #428

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I'm out of touch with 99 percent of people do. Can they really afford to call the repairman for every minor appliance issue? Or do they just live with it until replacement?

Labor is very expensive, more than parts. For something like a washing machine that costs $750 and has an expected lifetime of 10 years, it's hard decision of when to repair vs when to replace. Say my washer is already 6 years old, it breaks, and labor + parts to fix it would be $250. I might decide to give up and buy a brand new one instead.

Which means it ends up in the landfill.

I wish there were more repair cafes that might takebin items like that.

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Post by mostertoaster »

katbyte wrote: post #268
nkrisc wrote: post #229

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If “fun” is the primary advantage (I know there are others) then it’s no wonder there’s fewer manuals in the US, at least. I think for many people, myself included, a car is a tool. I don’t need it to be fun. I need it to be reliable, easy to use, and as efficient as possible. For some cars are a hobby, but for many people they’re most another tool in our lives.

Manuals have an advantage in some situations (off roading, transmission doesn’t overheat, better performance with skill, repairability) and autos have theirs (easy, better fuel economy) If I commuted to an office every day I’d get an auto (actually these days an EV), but working in the bush/backroads? Manual

Yeah if I still lived in Seattle area and drove to work I’d want an automatic.

As it is I don’t deal with traffic so a manual is a more fun “tool” to drive.

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Post by mmcnl »

deschutes wrote: post #461
mmcnl wrote: post #290

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This analogy only supports Apple's method? Car shops have a lift for easy access to the car and machines for balancing your tires. Very expensive equipment that almost no one has, which also goes for the tools for replacing an iPhone battery. Also Apple is not "consumer hostile", come on. That's a ridiculous accusation.

Anyone can mount a wheel. Clearly the author is talking about a hypothetical vehicle where the wheel has been welded to the axle assembly. Actually replacing the tire on a wheel has practical engineering constraints that leave it best suited for shops. Even changing bicycle tires is non trivial and the performance and durability demands there are negligible in comparison.

That's subjective. I don't think the procedure to replace the battery with the tools provided by Apple is complicated.
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