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Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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What is the point is this? Sorry for asking, but you are either curious about how much everyone else is making or trying to value yourself in the market. If you are curious about how much everyone else is making, stop. Just stop. It won't make you feel good. You will feel shitty because I would imagine the HN crowd will show better numbers than america as a whole, or even just your city. To illustrate my point, if yo…

There are enormous differences in the productivity of programmers. Even in the area of "good programmers" really good people can be multiple times faster than others. (Also "better" than others, but that's not directly measurable).

So I think it's perfectly reasonable if the salaries of people are assigned directly according to their capabilities. Why should a programmer that is twice as fast as his peers only get 10% or 20% more?

Actually that's one of the reasons why I've moved to the Bay Area. In my home countries things as seniority are the main factors in regard to the salary. In the Bay Area it's exactly the opposite - and that's much more motivating for me.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#53
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The unit next door to me has been on the market for some time - it was upgraded to include a washer/dryer - new paint, refinished hardwood floors and replaced kitchen appliances. It is really nice, a one bedroom, parking and pets allowed: $2,600 I have a 2-bedroom and have been looking for a 3-bedroom... The rents are crazy. There was a beautiful 3-bedroom little house near me; they wanted $7200 per month with a $10,…

If you think San Francisco rents are expensive I suggest you don't move to Manhattan. I live in a (true) one bedroom second-storey walkup in Chelsea, which actually has a new kitchen and bathroom (renovations made after the last tenant left to get it out of rent stabilization) and pay $2,000 a month for it. And that actually seems to be a pretty good deal. For a decent building (one with an elevator where you don't h…

Depends on where you live in Manhattan. When I was there in 2006 I lived in Harlem and paid approx. $1000 a month. And with the express trains it only took a couple of minutes to get anywhere.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#54
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How is this poll not anonymous?

The poll is, but the comments aren't - OP requested information on what we do for our paycheck, which I'd be more inclined to provide if I could do so without it being related to my (real) posting name.

... make a new account?

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#55

Location is huge. I live in Michigan and make considerably less than friends that live elsewhere. My rent is also almost 1000 dollars cheaper per month.

"Considerable" is unclear, it'd be easy to cover a 1k/mo spread under my definition of "considerable".

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#56

Even in SF it doesn't always cost 2k+ for a 1 bedroom.

Seems a lot of people get fooled by the average prices on Padmapper.

But the reality is that expensive apartments stay on the site longer than cheap apartments. So the "average" prices are likely to be higher than the real average.

It takes some time to find a reasonable apartment however.

I've was apartment-hunting for one month each weekend and finally found a huge $1350 a month studio in Nob Hill (that's nearly the size of a one-bedroom). If you don't have that much time to look for apartments the rent will be much higher of course.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#57
There's too much whining on this thread. It's clearly limited to the US. Are there other places on the planet? Sure. Go get your own poll. As for total comp, assume it's what's listed as your gross pay on your tax return. There you go, easy. Is it restricted to HN folk? Yes. Do they make more than others? Probably. Does it matter? No.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Where do you get those numbers from? If you're taking the top tax bracket, don't, that tells you absolutely nothing about an individual's effective tax rate.

In NYC you will pay about 50% of your gross income if you are just barely qualify for the marginal top tax bracket. Of course these numbers mean squat for your own personal situation:

Federal - ~25% effective, not marginal

State - 8%

Local - 4%

Payroll - 13% on the first 100k or so. 2.5% on the rest.

Sales Tax - 9%

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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post #23
post #4

net or gross? and what about specify state? USA is not the same as France or India

These numbers are meaningless outside the US. And I don't just mean taxes. Cost of living, housing, healthcare, insurances, transportation, social security, all of these things are so vastly different outside the US. It's pointless to compare US salaries to those in France or India.

It's even different inside the US. For example, my company currently pays all health care costs for me (in addition to the salary). But as I understand with many other (small?) companies you have to pay for the insurance yourself.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#60

There should really be a choice between areas with "high" 1br-costs-2000-a-month cost of living and Idaho/Kentucky.

Seattle kind of falls between the two, for example.

Along with almost all of the greater NYC area outside of Manhattan as well.
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