I quit because I didn't like how all of their shows pushed an ideological message. I'm quite left leaning on most issues, but Netflix writers appear to believe that preaching progressive messages is all that's required to make a compelling narrative. If they had the compelling narrative too it might be more tolerable, but they don't.
Do you have any examples?
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Re: Netflix’s bad habits have caught up with it
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> Case in point, Dave Chappelle's stand-up. He doesn't say what you're supposed to say about certain subjects, leading to outrage and calls to take down the show, yet it's still up. Were Netflix that left-leaning, that show would already be gone from their catalog. That's not the point. The point is "making money". Netflix is throwing a lot of money at their originals, the clear majority of which are "Woke" with a ca…
This is total nonsense. Sorry. You’ve fabricated some weird scenario in your head where the data screams out “woke content sucks” but god damn the executives just won’t listen! And then you attribute that to the Illuminati or the Woke Agenda or even the ghost of Carl Marx. Nobody knows “literally” what doesn’t sell when it comes to film and TV. It’s a shot in the dark each time.
No, I did not. I said they have the mountains of data to predict better. I said that there must be some reason why they are ignoring that data. I said that you can figure out what the most plausible reason is for ignoring that mountain of data.
> Nobody knows “literally” what doesn’t sell when it comes to film and TV. It’s a shot in the dark each time.
It's not a binary possibility; of course they literally know what does not sell, because they just made something, and measured it, and determined that it did not sell.
You make it sound like it's all down due to chance; the reality is that while luck plays a part, Netflix has much more agency in determining whether to continue on a certain path or not.
You hysterically screaming "It's not Wokism. It CAN'T* be Wokism because it hurts my feels and damages my worldview"*[1] doesn't make the data go away.
[1] I don't normally point out how absurd people are in this manner, but I feel you had it coming with you attempting to cast my post as some sort of conspiracy theorist. I point out that they have data, and you respond with false accusations of Illuinati and Marx.
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I feel like Netflix always kind of had an issue with poor taste. They have crappy reality shows and pseudo-documentaries about how the aliens build pyramids. A metric fuckton of content that caters to people with below average intelligence. In addition to this content being unhealthy because you either don't learn anything, or are actively being fed falsehoods, I think it just gives the platform a poor image. It's ki…
>A metric fuckton of content that caters to people with below average intelligence. The big question is how big is the fraction of people who are below average intelligence. Depending on that ratio, it could make sense to produce content for that part of the population ... Additionally, highly intelligent people earn more money and don't have to buy content wholesale. They can afford to buy movies directly which mean…
George Carlin figured this one out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs
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#274“Content is King” We all know this, Netflix knows this. And yet for some reason for years they have been aiming for quantity and not quality. Money is not enough in this department and baseball metaphors don’t do justice illustrating just how hard it is to put together a team that has that special thing going on. Some would argue it’s impossible - teams like the one behind Better Call Saul are just extremely rare and…
There's a legend of when Sony bought Columbia Pictures which is probably not true but the story is, after Sony bought Columbia Pictures, some Japanese executives flew over to meet with the top management at Columbia. The Columbia management explained to the Japanese execs that only 1 in 20 movies makes a profit. The Japanese executives talked to each other in Japanese and then turned back to the Columbia management a…
When the product arrives there's a seperate little box with the defective items that have been manufactured seperately to meet the spec.
(There's also the "half of my advertising is effective, I don't know which half" line)
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I still don't see how it's the consumers' fault. Say there was one single person out there who wasn't an idiot or clueless, and just wanted to watch some TV after work. What should this person have done?
Consumers want high quality, entertaining content, at low cost, with little commitment, at any time. Prior to Netflix, there wasn't such an intersecting product. Now, Netflix has low quality content, but still has all the other stuff. Consumers see this, forget what life was like back in the early 2000s, and switch/sign up for several other services. It's where consumers spend their money that will result in this reg…
The real trick here is Amazon right now because the Prime subscription has other benefits - in my house we've kept that active because it makes ordering baby stuff much cheaper.
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Interesting to call out Netflix for high price and then the examples for torrenting are Apple shows which is much cheaper.
My assumption with appletv is that you need half their ecosystem to even have the honour of giving them money to watch content.
It’s more likely they pirate because apple’s library is pretty small, compared to others, so it’s easier to just torrent than pay for the couple of programmes they want to watch.
It’s also more difficult to share logins with appletv (no profiles etc), so you’ll get less of the account sharing that Netflix is now trying to crack down on.
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#277I’m bored of Netflix. They have simply gone the assembly line direction instead of the direction of art, at least for some big niches. For example, every True Crime docuseries on Netflix is the same crap. Once you’ve seen three, you’ve seen them all. They get each cop involved in a big empty room, sit them on a solitary chair, put a dramatic light above them, and shoot them in 4k. Then they direct it at a pace to bor…
> …it is simply so cheap to pump out middling quality documentaries. Stock photography and interviews and cheap-but-good editing. You’ll notice solo YouTubers are making great documentaries. Reminds me of this hilarious video - https://youtu.be/9BUrNe3Vhtk
Re: Netflix’s bad habits have caught up with it
#278I’m bored of Netflix. They have simply gone the assembly line direction instead of the direction of art, at least for some big niches. For example, every True Crime docuseries on Netflix is the same crap. Once you’ve seen three, you’ve seen them all. They get each cop involved in a big empty room, sit them on a solitary chair, put a dramatic light above them, and shoot them in 4k. Then they direct it at a pace to bor…
Funny, I stumbled upon a documentary “Meltdown”, which is about the Three Mile Island nuclear incident in 1979.
I expected something along the lines of HBO’s Chernobyl, but it just seems like a very cheap, Discovery-style documentary?
It’s very poorly done, and I stopped watching after 2 episodes.
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This is total nonsense. Sorry. You’ve fabricated some weird scenario in your head where the data screams out “woke content sucks” but god damn the executives just won’t listen! And then you attribute that to the Illuminati or the Woke Agenda or even the ghost of Carl Marx. Nobody knows “literally” what doesn’t sell when it comes to film and TV. It’s a shot in the dark each time.
> You’ve fabricated some weird scenario in your head where the data screams out “woke content sucks” but god damn the executives just won’t listen! No, I did not. I said they have the mountains of data to predict better. I said that there must be some reason why they are ignoring that data. I said that you can figure out what the most plausible reason is for ignoring that mountain of data. > Nobody knows “literally”…
> I said they have the mountains of data to predict better. I said that there must be some reason why they are ignoring that data
Are they ignoring their data? Says who?
I guess it’s more comfortable to your worldview to make several jumps:
1. The data must say Woke content sucks
2. Netflix must not be listening to this data
3. Something must be forcing them to ignore it (but hehehe I won’t say why I think that is!)
And pretend that it’s fact. The anti-woke agenda being pushed by the conservative media as a next-generation “roe vs wade” division point has no bearing on me and my country, so I don’t really care. It’s just funny and a bit sad to watch.
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The idea that Netflix is failing because of identity politics is just ridiculous and doesn’t hold up to even the slightest examination. It’s just another reactionary talking point that feels right enough for people to not examine it.
My empirical evidence says otherwise. It is the primary reason I cancelled my subscription, and I've heard an awful lot of people complain about how every show has some forced social agenda. I suspect that Elon's tweet regarding Netflix, and the "woke" virus that has infected it, probably didn't help matters either. Say what you want about the guy, but he has a pretty massive amount of influence.
The main reason... Almost everything has some fringe minority edge, a gay lead, a token trans friend and most of the stuff is "victim porn" with the usual white male protagonist.
100% reason why I cancelled and the same for my friends.
Netflix, or Wokeflix is basically trash.