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The Verge is so bad they have me defending Apple [video]

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Re: The Verge is so bad they have me defending Apple [video]

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Post by kramerger »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #4
olliej wrote: post #2

I generally don't like "man rants at camera" style videos but I think this is actually really good - I had assumed it would be just complaining about the size/weight/etc of the repair equipment[1], but it was mostly calling out how their reporting makes it sound like the right-to-repair folk are assholes, and how their reporting doesn't actually touch on any of the stuff that isn't repairable. [1] which does seem big…

Rossmann loves to rant at the camera about a lot of shit he knows nothing about. He's kind of turning into the Joe Rogan of tech. He lost an incredible amount of credibility for me when he acted like he was a victim of Big Bad Apple siccing their lawyers on him for "selling parts." Apple didn't go after him because he was "selling parts", they went after him because he was selling laptop and phone batteries with the…

> He's kind of turning into the Joe Rogan of tech.

He also have tons of political rants, so it's not only tech

Re: The Verge is so bad they have me defending Apple [video]

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Post by iforgotpassword »

quink wrote: post #9
dm319 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple didn't go after him because he was "selling parts", they went after him because he was selling laptop and phone batteries with the Apple logo on them Mind if I have a source for this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/9pow06/louis_rossman...

AFAIU that thread was about batteries that were supposed to be refurbished and then turned out to be counterfeit. That's a little different. Also there's no hint at that being the reason he got calls from apple lawyers, but that's probably something we'll never find out.

Re: The Verge is so bad they have me defending Apple [video]

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Post by Ultimatt »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #4
olliej wrote: post #2

I generally don't like "man rants at camera" style videos but I think this is actually really good - I had assumed it would be just complaining about the size/weight/etc of the repair equipment[1], but it was mostly calling out how their reporting makes it sound like the right-to-repair folk are assholes, and how their reporting doesn't actually touch on any of the stuff that isn't repairable. [1] which does seem big…

Rossmann loves to rant at the camera about a lot of shit he knows nothing about. He's kind of turning into the Joe Rogan of tech. He lost an incredible amount of credibility for me when he acted like he was a victim of Big Bad Apple siccing their lawyers on him for "selling parts." Apple didn't go after him because he was "selling parts", they went after him because he was selling laptop and phone batteries with the…

So he went for reclaimed actual apple parts, recycling them for repair to keep the same Apple quality... is an equally valid and more likely reason the Apple logos were there. A practice Apple prevented by crypto keying components to a phone.

Re: The Verge is so bad they have me defending Apple [video]

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Post by philliphaydon »

kramerger wrote: post #11
KennyBlanken wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rossmann loves to rant at the camera about a lot of shit he knows nothing about. He's kind of turning into the Joe Rogan of tech. He lost an incredible amount of credibility for me when he acted like he was a victim of Big Bad Apple siccing their lawyers on him for "selling parts." Apple didn't go after him because he was "selling parts", they went after him because he was selling laptop and phone batteries with the…

> He's kind of turning into the Joe Rogan of tech. He also have tons of political rants, so it's not only tech

I stopped watching when he rennovated his new store and he got bad information from his viewers and his friend. Then I ended up getting his recommendations again during covid where he rants on and on. Difficult to unfollow.

Re: The Verge is so bad they have me defending Apple [video]

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Post by goodguyamerikan »

I've said it before and I'll say it again-- verge is long form tabloid. They are deliberately contrarian (in the hope of appearing smart) and provocative (in the hope of getting eyeballs). Except polygon, the entire group of publications is pure sleaze.

Re: The Verge is so bad they have me defending Apple [video]

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Post by michaelnoguera »

I have tried to faithfully summarize the video here. If you notice a mistake or omission, please correct me.

Rossmann’s main message: “to complain about something that is an option rather than complain about all of the options that are missing misses the forest for the trees”.

Key points:

1. For certain repairs, Apple’s repair program has “made availiable the exact same OEM parts and tools that they use” via rental. Renting these tools is optional and not required; Rossmann recognizes that while he (and in his opinion, most people) will likely not use these tools, their availability is a non-issue.

2. Sean Hollister’s article in The Verge was highly critical of the entire self-repair process, and called out the weight and price of this completely optional tool rental. Per Rossmann, “part of the problem with tech journalism in general is… focusing on the things that are easy rather than focusing on the things that matter”.

3. Rossmann reminds us that the right-to-repair fight is far from over. Board schematics and individual components are still not available even to authorized repair shops. He argues that these would enable him to more efficiently perform repairs.

4. Rossmann: While the tech press’s complaints are “making the right to repair people look like… fools”, “it is important to [know] that they don’t represent us [normal repair shops and average users]”.

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