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A world grain shortage puts tens of millions at risk

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Re: A world grain shortage puts tens of millions at risk

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The war wouldn’t be such a problem if Ukraine received proper anti-ship missiles.

> The war wouldn’t be such a problem if Ukraine received proper anti-ship missiles. That's very difficult to say, actually; the Moskova was sunk with them after all, but the bigger issue is the abhorrent and indiscriminate shelling of civilian populations by the Russians. Fields with farmers and homes and hospitals with civilians are not of military importance. And yet, Russia keeps shooting them. The truth is Putin'…

I’ve read that the disruption in fertilizer feedstock (especially methane) is going to reduce yields in other parts of the world, as well.

Re: A world grain shortage puts tens of millions at risk

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The agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Do you mean that remaining primitive hunters-gatherers, as now observed in certain places near Amazon river, would be more of a success?

The grass is always greener

Re: A world grain shortage puts tens of millions at risk

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let's say if the shortfall makes up 30% of supply.. surely those 70% other farmers would just need to raise by 140% or so to FULLY make up the difference? everyone pitch in a little, shouldn't be THAT big of a deal surely....

I tried copy and pasting certain paragraphs from the article here, (weather/price of inputs/farmer incentives/how wheat is purchased by nations/monetary policies/etc) but there are so many compounding global issues here one might just consider rereading the article instead.

It is quite a big deal.

Re: A world grain shortage puts tens of millions at risk

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The agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Do you mean that remaining primitive hunters-gatherers, as now observed in certain places near Amazon river, would be more of a success?

yes according to modern media sentiment. Never once have I watched a movie that argued for the antithesis of the "Avatar" respect nature mantra. I mean even without the warmongering factories are never portrayed in a positive light unless they're Willy Wonka's.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean that remaining primitive hunters-gatherers, as now observed in certain places near Amazon river, would be more of a success?

The grass is always greener

Thanks to chemical pesticides and industrial fertilizers.

Re: A world grain shortage puts tens of millions at risk

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let's say if the shortfall makes up 30% of supply.. surely those 70% other farmers would just need to raise by 140% or so to FULLY make up the difference? everyone pitch in a little, shouldn't be THAT big of a deal surely....

that would be easy if there was an AWS for Food!

Here is the reality, not only the grains but the inputs like fertilizers etc are sky-rocketing. Every body wants to piss of Fossil Fuels with out even understanding how foundational they are to Modern Civilization (I welcome the downvotes but I will not stop advocating).

Say, with me, N P K - Nitrogen Phosphorous Pottasium. Belarus is a major Potash supplier, Natural gas is important for Fertilizer production etc. These inputs are now expensive.

But the policy genius, LOVE Price Controls, so what prices do these guys love controlling, they target staples .. grains, rice etc.

Now if you are farmer, who has to invest more money given the increased cost of fertilizers etc. and the government will come and take away the grain below market rate -- are you going to play the game? That is the game in much of the developing world.. and to some extend even developed world.

So your AWS style solution of spinning another EC2 instance for Food does not work in the real world.

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