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Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

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Re: Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

#32

Go to new Delhi, India. Look up "ghaffar market". This is like " the" mobile repair market. Entire rows upon rows of literally one man stalls which repair your phone on the fly. They take mobile repairing to the next level. No need for "sterile environment" that people show, clean rooms and all. They just do it in all the dust and grime and sweat showing our devices are really resistant to a lot.

Places like Ghaffar Market exist in most Asian cities. In fact, Delhi has another at Nehru Place

Re: Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

#33

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On the other hand phones are now thing and waterproof. Not saying that replaceable batteries are bad but it’s not like this was an entirely arbitrary decision.

The Galaxy XCover 5 is waterproof (IP68) and has a replaceable battery. It's built for extreme conditions so it looks a little funky, but it's clearly possible to have both. Sure, gluing the battery into a closed container is a lot easier than developing novel waterproofing methods, but it's not impossible to do so.

Almost all consumers would prefer to take their phone in for a battery replacement than have it look weird. Considering a replacement is something you do maybe once while the form factor is something you will always be affected by.

Re: Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

#34
I'm not sure the right to repair should have to mean that companies have to magically circumvent the effects of economy of scale.

Surely the important thing is that they don't act anti-competitively towards independent repair shops, so they can actually have one of these kits on their desks to replace batteries all day long without being gouged.

Re: Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

#35
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While this is arguably extreme, I do think you'd find people complaining if they broke their screen with the standard iFixit suction cup and other tools when trying to replace a battery. (Which I managed to do on an old iPhone I didn't much care about.) iFixit does a nice job but a lot of electronics repairs without training and the right equipment are not something just anyone can easily do.

What I want is for Apple to allow iFixit to buy OEM batteries, and the battery should come with access to the validation service. That way, Apple has no liability for the actual repair. But, as others suggest, I think there is actually a dark pattern at work here.

There's nothing particularly special about OEM batteries. I don't generally buy them when I need replacements.

Re: Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

#36

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The battery has DRM now as stated on the article.

This shit has to stop.

It isn’t drm, a warning shows up on boot if the battery replacement was done unofficially. It has no functional impact on the device.

The reasons behind it are pretty strong. A lot of repair stores use second hand, or fraudulent parts which damage the user experience. So for an owner getting a repair, if they don’t see warnings, they know the repair was done right. And as a buyer, you can tell the phone is using all official parts.

It’s also likely used to ruin the resale value of stolen parts from the factories.

Re: Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

#37
I absolutely hate anticompetitive business practices. Like I get genuinely angry about it. But this seems totally fine to me. The author followed the instructions and ended up with a perfect result. They were stressed about repairing it because they might break it, but that’s true of many DIY things. There was a lot of equipment sent to them, but it was offered at a reasonable price and made the repair much safer for the phone. I just don’t see the problem.

Re: Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

#39
All this just to replace a battery is obviously utterly ridiculous.

On the one hand this could be malicious compliance.

On the other maybe they still need to design their new phones to be easier to repair and this is a temporary measure?

Either way, newer laws should be worded such that it costs $0,00 to replace a battery with no deposit; all costs for tooling go to the manufacturer. Then it will cost the manufacturer money, which incentivizes them to make it easier to repair.

Re: Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.1-Ounce Battery

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand phones are now thing and waterproof. Not saying that replaceable batteries are bad but it’s not like this was an entirely arbitrary decision.

The Galaxy XCover 5 is waterproof (IP68) and has a replaceable battery. It's built for extreme conditions so it looks a little funky, but it's clearly possible to have both. Sure, gluing the battery into a closed container is a lot easier than developing novel waterproofing methods, but it's not impossible to do so.

We've been waterproofing watches for almost 100 years. If Apple cared, it's absolutely possible.
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