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The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by 5hoom »

freedompeace wrote: post #6

For a well-designed website, I must say, I'm a bit worried. > The cooperation takes place by our Group Business Platform using current security standards and ciphering methods. A secure data interchange has high priority! Because that's all there is to security. > All data is transferred with a 128 Bit SSL coding and are even secured by your log in on our Group Business Platform. This ciphering method is used in all…

You forgot this bit in the technical requirements:

-PC or MAC with internet connection

-Web Browser (Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 is recommended)

So... they mean a (pretty old) PC with internet connection then?

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

#12

Post by eropple »

5hoom wrote: post #11
freedompeace wrote: post #6

For a well-designed website, I must say, I'm a bit worried. > The cooperation takes place by our Group Business Platform using current security standards and ciphering methods. A secure data interchange has high priority! Because that's all there is to security. > All data is transferred with a 128 Bit SSL coding and are even secured by your log in on our Group Business Platform. This ciphering method is used in all…

You forgot this bit in the technical requirements: -PC or MAC with internet connection -Web Browser (Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 is recommended) So... they mean a (pretty old) PC with internet connection then?

Hey now, there's Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac. Supports high-quality (broken) CSS1, y'know.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

#13

Post by 5hoom »

eropple wrote: post #12
5hoom wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot this bit in the technical requirements: -PC or MAC with internet connection -Web Browser (Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 is recommended) So... they mean a (pretty old) PC with internet connection then?

Hey now, there's Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac. Supports high-quality (broken) CSS1, y'know.

I stand corrected and humbly defer to your knowledge of horrible browsers ;)

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

#14

Post by chc »

eropple wrote: post #12
5hoom wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot this bit in the technical requirements: -PC or MAC with internet connection -Web Browser (Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 is recommended) So... they mean a (pretty old) PC with internet connection then?

Hey now, there's Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac. Supports high-quality (broken) CSS1, y'know.

Not IE 6. Mac stopped at 5.something.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

#15

Post by emilsedgh »

"For security reasons, the Volkswagen Group does not recommend other browsers like Mozilla Firefox, Opera, Netscape etc. as they show security gaps."

This probably means they have serious security holes which could be easily triggered by other browsers.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

#16

Post by p4bl0 »

chc wrote: post #14
eropple wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey now, there's Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac. Supports high-quality (broken) CSS1, y'know.

Not IE 6. Mac stopped at 5.something.

Yup, but I remember IE 5.2 on Mac being a little better wrt. the w3c standards than IE 6 on windows, so I guess the version numbers weren't really comparable.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by chris_dcosta »

Funny - only the other day I posted on this:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3129438

It seems that the current post "outs" the security function.

I wonder if it was carefully worded by someone who knew better as it appears to be a very good advert for attracting "unwanted" attention.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

#18

Post by freedompeace »

eropple wrote: post #12
5hoom wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot this bit in the technical requirements: -PC or MAC with internet connection -Web Browser (Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 is recommended) So... they mean a (pretty old) PC with internet connection then?

Hey now, there's Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac. Supports high-quality (broken) CSS1, y'know.

Don't worry! It's an industry-wide standard (apparently).

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

#19

Post by rmoriz »

antimora wrote: post #10

For some reason the corporate world is still stuck with IE6. Just recently we were dealing with a large corporation that was still using IE6 throughout the company and our web app had to support this browser.

The reason in Germany is mainly SAP (because of its popularity here)

Their Netweaver product was build with lots of ActiveX + OS stuff that's so proprietary, that it will not work with even IE7.

Of course SAP has released upgrades but companies have to pay for it or change larger parts of their ERP to be able to apply the upgrades. As ERPs are propably upgraded once per decade, this will take some time...

From various access logs I've analyzed, I can say that Daimler, Merck (the Germany Merck), Bayer, Deutsche Post and some Governments (Bundeszentralamt für Steuern) still run IE6 in wide-scale deployments.

It seems that only view companies provide alternative, modern browsers to their users or the users don't use them and stick with their IE6 default (as they know from SAP Portal) even when browsing externaly.

Re: The Volkswagen Group is using IE6 as standard for displaying web pages

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Post by chc »

p4bl0 wrote: post #16
chc wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not IE 6. Mac stopped at 5.something.

Yup, but I remember IE 5.2 on Mac being a little better wrt. the w3c standards than IE 6 on windows, so I guess the version numbers weren't really comparable.

It was better in some ways, but IIRC the box model was the brokenest thing ever.
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