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Post by ajsnigrutin »

seoaeu wrote: post #326
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #289

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In the meantime I just paid 200% more for heating oil than it cost me one year ago. And I cannot use this public transport offer. But I am contributing to it with my taxes.

In other words, your transportation patterns don’t let you reduce your oil use, so you’re doing your part by paying slightly higher taxes to benefit those who can? That doesn’t seem like a bad thing

In other words, there's a program in place to help people with high prices, that he has to pay into, but doesn't get anything from it, while still being affected by high prices, that he might not be able to afford.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by foepys »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #332
seoaeu wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In other words, your transportation patterns don’t let you reduce your oil use, so you’re doing your part by paying slightly higher taxes to benefit those who can? That doesn’t seem like a bad thing

You mean I‘m partially funding their cheap transportation? Where is the money for these cheap tickets coming from? But your comment kinda makes sense. It’s not really worth trying much in Germany. The more one tries, the more one becomes the source of funding for others while not really getting any personal gratification or gain.

Your 30 cent gas discount is funded by all the people not owning cars. Which costs 500 million Euros more than the 9€ ticket by the way. Be grateful for that and stop huffing and puffing all over the comment section with snide comments on how the world is unfair to you.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by foepys »

Bigpet wrote: post #295
jona-f wrote: post #153

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Covid is currently not a big issue in Germany. Even so restrictions are lifted and most people don't care at all anymore about protection, the numbers are going down.

Numbers are still significantly higher than Winter 2020/21. So with lessening restrictions this winter is poised to set another record (for infections at least, deaths might not be as high as last year). People don't care, true. But that's about feeling, not about numbers or facts.

Hospitals have next to no cases in my region. 500/100.000 people tested positive over the last 7 days with probably times 3 more infected due to no mandatory testing. Only a combined 2 people (both over 80) are in the 5 hospitals with only one being intubated. That's nothing, really.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by virtualritz »

jstummbillig wrote: post #179
MandieD wrote: post #51

Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…

> If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way. Well, that is not exactly true now, is it. REs do actually skip the vast majority of "villages" and are far from being the slow ones, comparatively. Anyway, for comparisons sake here is some Hamburg -> Berlin options: - By car (with low traffic, according to GMaps): 3h20 - Regional…

There is also FlixTrain for e.g. Hamburg—Berlin (or vice versa) which is demand-priced.

And includes a reserved seat.

I went for 4.99€ last month – twice (taking early morning trains).

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by virtualritz »

nixass wrote: post #354
NicoJuicy wrote: post #351

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Prague - Amsterdam by bus 13:30 hours - 120 € Look up Flixbus. It's slow, but cheap.

To spend 13.5hrs in Flixbus, dear god..

I regularly take long distance flights.

FlixBus seats, when reclined, are on par with economy seats in any airline I used. But FlixBus seats have considerable more legroom.

Also the bus takes breaks on journeys that last for that many hours.

Even some of the direct FlixBuses Berlin–Hamburg (3.5hs) take a 5min break at a petrol station somewhere in the middle of the journey.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by jupp0r »

anonyfox wrote: post #459
IMTDb wrote: post #316

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This is assuming that your trip starts and stops exactly next to the train station and that there is a non-delayed train available precisely at the right time. In practice that's not the case and those time add up quickly . Car trip will look like: 1. Travel from start to location (3:20) 2. Find parking (0:5) 3. Walk from parking to location (0:10) Total time of 3:35 Your train trip will look like: 1. Go from start t…

Also remember we’re talking Autobahn here! Gmaps assumes upto 130kp/h… depending on your car and driving style you could drive 200kp/h++ (at least partially when there’s no speed limit) -> I’d challenge the 3:20h driving time, would probably more like 2:30h in ideal conditions

The ability to do that will be highly traffic dependent. In practice, driving that fast when possible doesn't shave more than a few minutes time off the overall travel duration from my own experience.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by wreath »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #332
seoaeu wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In other words, your transportation patterns don’t let you reduce your oil use, so you’re doing your part by paying slightly higher taxes to benefit those who can? That doesn’t seem like a bad thing

You mean I‘m partially funding their cheap transportation? Where is the money for these cheap tickets coming from? But your comment kinda makes sense. It’s not really worth trying much in Germany. The more one tries, the more one becomes the source of funding for others while not really getting any personal gratification or gain.

You’re exactly right. The German system is setup so that you make use of it only if you are on average or below average income. Anything more is a diminishing return. This is for pension, maternal/paternal leave, health insurance etc. The reasoning being that “so we have more equal society”. Yes equal but there simply is no incentive to progress without being penalized. The lucky ones are those with “old money” or those who prefer to rely on the system instead of themselves.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by FabHK »

a2800276 wrote: post #324
jeroen wrote: post #241

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No, it's 1 month (in a 3 month period): > For 9 euros, you can travel throughout Germany on local/regional trains for a whole month in June, July or August.

You can buy one each month, though. Even of you just use it for metropolitan transit, it's super cheap. My monthly pass (reduced because it only valid after 9 am so commuters have to pay more) costs 75 EUR. A single ticket ist 2.80. This is a good deal in almost any scenario where you take and applicable train.

> so commuters have to pay more

or start later...

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by locallost »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #461
seoaeu wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In other words, your transportation patterns don’t let you reduce your oil use, so you’re doing your part by paying slightly higher taxes to benefit those who can? That doesn’t seem like a bad thing

In other words, there's a program in place to help people with high prices, that he has to pay into, but doesn't get anything from it, while still being affected by high prices, that he might not be able to afford.

I live in Germany and I also have to pay for the construction of toll free highways and other very expensive car infrastructure. The tax on gas was reduced for the same months in the sommer which is on its own totally ridiculous, but it will also cost over a billion a month. I don't drive so I have nothing to gain from any of that -- but you don't get help from others if you don't help others, so you don't pick and choose what you pay with your taxes.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

foepys wrote: post #462
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean I‘m partially funding their cheap transportation? Where is the money for these cheap tickets coming from? But your comment kinda makes sense. It’s not really worth trying much in Germany. The more one tries, the more one becomes the source of funding for others while not really getting any personal gratification or gain.

Your 30 cent gas discount is funded by all the people not owning cars. Which costs 500 million Euros more than the 9€ ticket by the way. Be grateful for that and stop huffing and puffing all over the comment section with snide comments on how the world is unfair to you.

Like that is helping me with heating oil. And mind you, not only me. Everyone renting places, owning places, offices heated with oil will get hit by that. I do not see how a discount on transport for three months is going to help those people.

I also have a mother in Germany who I pay the rent for. She's a pensioner with a minimal amount of money. I am very much looking to Nebenkostenabrechnung next year for heating.

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