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Post by mvexel »

Very cool. Reminds me of the "Wochenende-ticket" DB sold in the 90s. It was something like 30DM and was good for travel on all regional DB trains for up to 5 people.

I used it with a group of friends to travel to Berlin from The Netherlands in 1993. I was a bit of a rail geek (still am, I guess) and had purchased a "Kursbuch" on a previous trip to Germany. This was a 2000 or so page, 3 pound book that contained all the timetables for all German trains. We pored over the timetables for hours to find an optimal route from the closest German border station to Berlin. I remember it being relatively few trains, something like Bad Bentheim - Osnabrueck - Bielefeld - Kassel - Dessau (!) - Berlin. It was a fun trip, lots of people were traveling long distance on local trains and Berlin attracted very...interesting people at that time.

After arriving in Berlin we sold our ticket, which was still good for another day, for 15DM.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by ruune »

freeflight wrote: post #371
snovv_crash wrote: post #269

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Germany is a rich country with poor people.

Easy fix, just don't count the poor people [0] [0] https://www.deutschlandfunkkultur.de/der-geschoente-armutsbe...

Article is about the government, consisting of CDU and SPD at the time (2017), removing important parts of their report on poverty. Affected were passages about the growing low-wage sector, wage inequality and inequality of wealth overall, as well as reports on how poverty affects political influence and the growth of the economy. It appears as if the government had a disregard about the social and democratic implecations of poverty. The previous government of CDU and FDP did something similar in 2012 and was criticized for it by the SPD

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by johannes1234321 »

grp wrote: post #381
2143 wrote: post #364

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What about buses? Are they also super-punctual?

In cities, there are many bus lanes to bypass traffic. And they circulate several times per hour, 6 or more. Even if sometimes they are not punctual, the density saves you and you rarely think about it.

Not only are there lanes to bypass traffic, almost more important is that the traffic lights are controlled to prioritize the busses. Thus if a bus comes the traffic lights turn and hold green so that the cars in front of the bus can clear the crossing for the bus.

And there are dense schedules, so that if one bus is delayed to some problem the next one is close by, thus gap is little.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by flobosg »

mvexel wrote: post #451

Very cool. Reminds me of the "Wochenende-ticket" DB sold in the 90s. It was something like 30DM and was good for travel on all regional DB trains for up to 5 people. I used it with a group of friends to travel to Berlin from The Netherlands in 1993. I was a bit of a rail geek (still am, I guess) and had purchased a "Kursbuch" on a previous trip to Germany. This was a 2000 or so page, 3 pound book that contained all t…

DB was still selling those tickets (as Schönes-Wochenende-Ticket) until 2019.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by mvexel »

flobosg wrote: post #454
mvexel wrote: post #451

Very cool. Reminds me of the "Wochenende-ticket" DB sold in the 90s. It was something like 30DM and was good for travel on all regional DB trains for up to 5 people. I used it with a group of friends to travel to Berlin from The Netherlands in 1993. I was a bit of a rail geek (still am, I guess) and had purchased a "Kursbuch" on a previous trip to Germany. This was a 2000 or so page, 3 pound book that contained all t…

DB was still selling those tickets (as Schönes-Wochenende-Ticket) until 2019.

I think that was what it was actually called back then too! Interesting that it's lived on all that time.

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Post by nick_meister »

steven_pack wrote: post #367
MandieD wrote: post #51

Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…

Did this 20 years ago, it was called Schoeneswochenende Fahrkarte "Good weekend" ticket. You could get all over the country, but real slow. I met loads of people and got invited to people's homes, because they didn't typically see an Aussie backpacker on a local train. Great times, go do it.

Yes! I went from Stuttgart to Berlin using the Schoeneswochenende Fahrkarte like 20 year ago, it took some time but since we were a group of friends, it was fun actually :) Ahh.. good memories

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by ivan_gammel »

newaccount74 wrote: post #426
usr1106 wrote: post #377

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Deutsche Bahn is very far from 99% punctuality. Statistics were published only recently and they pointed down once again. But to be fair going by car is hardly better, you can get stuck more or less unexpectedly in most somewhat busy places.

I can't really talk about DB, I rarely take the ICE. But I also want to point out that I didn't say that public transit is 99% on time, I said I get to my destination on time 99% of the time. Often when a train/tram/subway is late I can just take a different one and still get to my destination on time. If there is a delay on a long journey, I usually know hours in advance, and I can let people know I'm going to be la…

This week I had two business trips on ICE trains. It was exactly like in statistics (only 75% trains come on time), one of them delayed by 20 minutes just before departure due to "unauthorized people on the tracks". This was the 3rd incident with DB during my travels this year (before that I had my connection train from Frankfurt cancelled while I was on the 2 hour long flight there).

One of the delays that I experienced with DB couple years ago was related to a complete change of the train route that happened after departure (!). Some unlucky passengers had to leave at the next station and check how they can get to their destinations at Reisezentrum. Travel time was increased by 1 hour for me.

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Post by consp »

IMTDb wrote: post #316
jstummbillig wrote: post #179

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> If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way. Well, that is not exactly true now, is it. REs do actually skip the vast majority of "villages" and are far from being the slow ones, comparatively. Anyway, for comparisons sake here is some Hamburg -> Berlin options: - By car (with low traffic, according to GMaps): 3h20 - Regional…

This is assuming that your trip starts and stops exactly next to the train station and that there is a non-delayed train available precisely at the right time. In practice that's not the case and those time add up quickly . Car trip will look like: 1. Travel from start to location (3:20) 2. Find parking (0:5) 3. Walk from parking to location (0:10) Total time of 3:35 Your train trip will look like: 1. Go from start t…

You should add at least one 15 min car stop. After an hour or two you are not focused anymore.

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Post by anonyfox »

IMTDb wrote: post #316
jstummbillig wrote: post #179

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> If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way. Well, that is not exactly true now, is it. REs do actually skip the vast majority of "villages" and are far from being the slow ones, comparatively. Anyway, for comparisons sake here is some Hamburg -> Berlin options: - By car (with low traffic, according to GMaps): 3h20 - Regional…

This is assuming that your trip starts and stops exactly next to the train station and that there is a non-delayed train available precisely at the right time. In practice that's not the case and those time add up quickly . Car trip will look like: 1. Travel from start to location (3:20) 2. Find parking (0:5) 3. Walk from parking to location (0:10) Total time of 3:35 Your train trip will look like: 1. Go from start t…

Also remember we’re talking Autobahn here! Gmaps assumes upto 130kp/h… depending on your car and driving style you could drive 200kp/h++ (at least partially when there’s no speed limit)

-> I’d challenge the 3:20h driving time, would probably more like 2:30h in ideal conditions

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by tawm »

nixass wrote: post #354
NicoJuicy wrote: post #351

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Prague - Amsterdam by bus 13:30 hours - 120 € Look up Flixbus. It's slow, but cheap.

To spend 13.5hrs in Flixbus, dear god..

Definitely take a shower right before departure. Your ass will thank you.
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