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Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by lucioperca »

jansan wrote: post #243
jstummbillig wrote: post #179

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> If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way. Well, that is not exactly true now, is it. REs do actually skip the vast majority of "villages" and are far from being the slow ones, comparatively. Anyway, for comparisons sake here is some Hamburg -> Berlin options: - By car (with low traffic, according to GMaps): 3h20 - Regional…

Of course, as with all train connections, you have to add the time to get to/from the station and some buffer.

As usual in big cities you need to add the time for walking to your car and for finding a parking space in the end.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by germanier »

_Microft wrote: post #200
germanier wrote: post #147

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> If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good A few days ago Deutsche Bahn has started to label some trains with an RE number (e.g. running Norddeich-Bremen or Stuttgart-Singen) with "9-Euro-ticket not valid".

There are Norddeich-Bremen connections with a remark that the 9-Euro-Ticket is not valid but these connections include a section/leg with an Intercity train (IC). The ticket is not valid for Intercity trains in general. There are other connections between these two places without having to go on an Intercity and these do not show the message.

These trains do have an RE number though, they show up when searching "local trains only" on the route planner (in that case the IC number will even only be visible after expanding details), and all other regional train tickets are accepted on those trains. This will confuse lots of people.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by DeathArrow »

MandieD wrote: post #51

Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…

>This is for the benefit of people who live here and are struggling with 2 EUR/liter

If 2 EUR/liter is too much for Germany, than it's enormous for my Eastern European country.

I know we should support the war and sanctions and all those nice things, but some poor people depend on transportation for their living. If it costs too much, they might not be able to work. Already surges in food prices and utilities prices made life very hard for the most unfortunate of my countrymen.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by wongarsu »

pwdisswordfish0 wrote: post #194
Archelaos wrote: post #134

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> I would argue making it free and keeping it free would have been a cool move. Here in Germany, there were many voices in favour of making the ticket completely free. What I heard about the reason for not doing so is that the government wanted to easily measure the actual demand in different regions for such a "free" ticket. So the price is low enough that anybody who wants to ride practically "for free" is buying i…

>I expect that if the ticket is a success, it will be replaced by real free rides in the future. What’s your confidence level here? Because if you can make me believe that the ticket is effectively a vote for ticketless/free ÖPNV I will buy them for everyone I know.

If the ticket is a success (both in number of tickets sold and in people taking transit instead of the car) I'd expect the program to be continued. The exact implementation will be subject to much debate, but once you have a cheap monthly nationwide ticket established it's much easier to talk about the costs and benefits of actually charging for it.

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Post by pheelicks »

Toutouxc wrote: post #170
Scarblac wrote: post #133

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Our Dutch Scouts of age 15-17 also plan their own camps and do so on a shoestring budget, and it turns out that yes you can get from the Netherlands to the Czech Republic with all your camping gear using only like fifteen different German regional trains :-)

Related: We're a Czech couple, currently planning our vacation in the Netherlands, and we too are on a very tight budget. I wanted so bad to get there by train and spend the week there riding Dutch trains all over the place, but man, the train journey there and back is just as long as a car trip (~10-12 hours) and costs at least twice as much. Looks like we'll be taking our 50 MPG car instead and since it will be the…

Take the night train via Regensburg (book via cd.cz) and arrive rested. Goes every Thursday

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by ptspts »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #173
MandieD wrote: post #51

Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…

Somewhat off topic, but still: > long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) Zurich is too deep in Switzerland to be covered anyways. (Salzburg, Kufstein, Basel Bad Bf, etc. however are in Austria/Switzerland but part of German rail rates and included in 9€ tickets) And that DB bus doesn't exist anymore since the new electrified railway line to Lindau was opened two years ago, as Munucih-Zurich got…

From Zürich to Munich by direct train is now 221 minutes instead of 245 minutes. It'z faster, but I wouldn't call it way faster.

By bus it's 225 minutes, but the bus is often up to 30 minutes late.

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Post by belter »

Toutouxc wrote: post #170
Scarblac wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our Dutch Scouts of age 15-17 also plan their own camps and do so on a shoestring budget, and it turns out that yes you can get from the Netherlands to the Czech Republic with all your camping gear using only like fifteen different German regional trains :-)

Related: We're a Czech couple, currently planning our vacation in the Netherlands, and we too are on a very tight budget. I wanted so bad to get there by train and spend the week there riding Dutch trains all over the place, but man, the train journey there and back is just as long as a car trip (~10-12 hours) and costs at least twice as much. Looks like we'll be taking our 50 MPG car instead and since it will be the…

Now you know why so many still use the car in the Netherlands.

"Dutch public transport is the most expensive in Europe": https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/dutch-pu...

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Post by kmonsen »

pavlov wrote: post #93
butterlesstoast wrote: post #81

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For all the Americans. Converting from euros to USD and liters to gallons, gas is roughly $12 a gallon at this moment.

Your math is off by 50%. A gallon is 3.785 litres, and the euro is roughly $1.05. So 2 euros per litre = one gallon costs $8.

It’s above $6/gallon here in the bar area even for the cheapest gas so the prices are not that different.

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Post by notagoodidea »

AndyMcConachie wrote: post #196
Toutouxc wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related: We're a Czech couple, currently planning our vacation in the Netherlands, and we too are on a very tight budget. I wanted so bad to get there by train and spend the week there riding Dutch trains all over the place, but man, the train journey there and back is just as long as a car trip (~10-12 hours) and costs at least twice as much. Looks like we'll be taking our 50 MPG car instead and since it will be the…

Have you considered long distance buses from something like Flixbus? I live in Rotterdam and see them coming into the central station from all over Europe.

Any travel by Flixbus longer than 6 - 8h is really painful imho, they are not really long-distance bus. They are nice for cheap big city hopping. Of course a lot of people do use them for longer trips but honestly, I don't know anyone that arrive from a long distance bus rested tbh also.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by cbmuser »

Archelaos wrote: post #134
Escapado wrote: post #75

I would argue making it free and keeping it free would have been a cool move. - Less/no expensive accounting - Less/no personnel for checking tickets - Less/no personnel for prosecuting people who don't have tickets - Less/no ticket vending machines (and all the maintenance that comes with it) - Less traffic on the roads since you can't beat "free" and hence less emissions (at least in hamburg trains operate on green…

> I would argue making it free and keeping it free would have been a cool move. Here in Germany, there were many voices in favour of making the ticket completely free. What I heard about the reason for not doing so is that the government wanted to easily measure the actual demand in different regions for such a "free" ticket. So the price is low enough that anybody who wants to ride practically "for free" is buying i…

We had cities with free public transport in Germany.

One example was the city of Templin in Brandenburg.

The project was eventually abandoned because lots of people were just riding the busses out of boredom and busses were permanently full with costs exploding for the city.

See: https://www.manager-magazin.de/unternehmen/artikel/nahverkeh...

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