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Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by Jedd »

Fight for what you think you want, but don't assume everyone wants what you think you want.

> Standard work hours here

The fact you assume we know where 'here' is implies you're in North America, but that's not a foolproof heuristic. Where are you where that's standard?

> stay 10+ hours

If standard hours 'there' were 9, why were you spending > 10?

For context -- I am in Australia, it's a week away from winter, I would prefer a 4-day work-week be legislated as default rather than a 6-hour workday.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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irrational wrote: post #97

This is the great thing about remote working. When I worked in the office I felt like I needed to be seen working, even if I really wasn’t because, let’s face it, programming often requires time not working to allow your subconscious to figure out the solution to the problem you are working on. So I would have my butt in the seat, but wasn’t actually doing anything. Now with remote work I can go for a walk, do the di…

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Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by sidlls »

I prefer shorter work weeks.

My company's return to office policy is a hybrid deal. I am very productive when I'm in the office and I use the remote days to refresh myself. On those days I generally only "work" by replying to messages and listening in on remote meetings. I've never been more productive. I get more done in my in-office days now than I did during a full week either during the pandemic or before it.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by joomooru »

mrpotato wrote: post #121
jokethrowaway wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter how much currency you give the poor in society, there won't be an incentive to reward people which provide zero value. Prices will just go up. How much free time you have could very well be a function of how valuable / hard to automate your work is.

> there won't be an incentive to reward people which provide zero value. I am assuming you mean "who don't work" when you say provide zero value. The poor encompass more than just people living in a cardboard box in some alley. There are poor people living paycheck to paycheck who are barely able to afford food AND a roof over their head. A poor person can be a single parent with two kids who works two minimum wage j…

Really telling when a person equates low wage with providing no value in society. So much for "essential workers" being forced to work in-person during the pandemic

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by akersten »

hgs3 wrote: post #125

Maybe I’m crazy, but I don’t think a four day work week is radical enough. A web developer today is easily 5x more productive than a web developer 30 years ago: we have off the shelf databases, frameworks, and a huge ecosystem of open source libraries. If I can produce the same output as a web developer 30 years ago, but at 1/5th the time, then why am I not working 1 day a week for the same pay? What’s the point of m…

For real. Let's start at 6 hour, 1 day work weeks, and Capital can negotiate to 8 hours/2 days from there if they don't feel like the cogs are busy enough. Because you know if we start at proposing a 4 day week, it's gonna be "well how about half days every other Friday?" Let's earn some real keep here.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by avisser »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #40
AndyMcConachie wrote: post #17

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Continue that line of through - whats the gameplan? Then those foreigners are forced into the same work culture that makes having a family impossible? What's next? Contunue leaching off countries that actually support sustainable survival of the human species?

This is an overly flip answer, but this seems to be America's game plan.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by em-bee »

Closi wrote: post #30
Apreche wrote: post #24

Why not both? 4 days, 6 hours each. Hey employers reading this. Having a hard time finding software engineers? Offer me this and I will come running. I’ll be banging on your door with my resume. Think about it.

Are you willing to get paid 24/37 = 64% of a fulltime positions salary? If so, I think plenty of smaller employers would be happy to do this.

you'd think so, but on every job site i check, part-time jobs are extremely rare. and trying to impress in the interview before asking for part time is not an option.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #111
ryan93 wrote: post #85

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Its not racist. I would support it if you are personally willing to take the punishment for any heinous crimes committed by immigrants.

It’s not racist!! > makes it even more racist

Don't you know that two racisms in opposite direction cancell out and you have no racism left

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by onion2k »

lostcohort wrote: post #51
lvl102 wrote: post #46

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Let’s be honest, if you ever worked in East Asian countries with these work ethic culture, you’d know they just sit around the office doing absolutely nothing. It’s bullshit.

Even on this very forum you people will consistently brag that they only work a couple hours a week at their 500k job.

If you can generate enough value in 2 hours to justify 500k a year then that's fine.
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