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Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by Markoff »

Closi wrote: post #30
Apreche wrote: post #24

Why not both? 4 days, 6 hours each. Hey employers reading this. Having a hard time finding software engineers? Offer me this and I will come running. I’ll be banging on your door with my resume. Think about it.

Are you willing to get paid 24/37 = 64% of a fulltime positions salary? If so, I think plenty of smaller employers would be happy to do this.

I am not paid per hour (I have availability roughly between 08-15, of course I am not paid anything for availability, I am paid only per finished task), but I would still prefer to lose 1/3 of my income to have 3 day weekend, because whether I have 100% or 66% of my income makes no difference to me, it's just money (same as now losing like 10% (maybe 20K EUR?) of my current savings in stock, some people would go crazy here to lose that amount of money, but I don't care), but extra free day each week is priceless.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by Apreche »

Closi wrote: post #30
Apreche wrote: post #24

Why not both? 4 days, 6 hours each. Hey employers reading this. Having a hard time finding software engineers? Offer me this and I will come running. I’ll be banging on your door with my resume. Think about it.

Are you willing to get paid 24/37 = 64% of a fulltime positions salary? If so, I think plenty of smaller employers would be happy to do this.

Despite having fewer hours on the clock, I will still deliver the same software on the same timeframe. It’s the software I create that they are buying, therefore I should be paid the same.

That being said, yes. As long as the salary is enough to maintain my standard of living, I will accept a lower salary to work fewer hours.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by charcircuit »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #15
orangepurple wrote: post #7

Meanwhile in China... Excerpts below taken from the website https://996.icu/#/en_US What is "996"? 996 working, ICU waiting. A "996" work schedule refers to an unofficial work schedule (9a.m. ~ 9p.m., 6 days a week) that has been gaining in popularity. Serving a company that encourages the "996" work schedule usually means working for at least 60 hours a week. In early September 2016, it was said that 58.com (58同城, a…

This is terrible, unfair, and morally wrong, but we can understand what it comes from: this is a difference between the so-called "developed" and "developing" countries. Because why do we work? To have money so that we can live comfortably. Work is not meant to fill in 40 or more hours of our life, it's just a means to and end. If we can have enough money by working less, many people chose this way. In the meantime,…

Maybe that is true for you, but not everyone. Some people actually like their work and find it fun and meaningful.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by jokethrowaway »

codingdave wrote: post #11

I like the 4 day week, but that is because I have kids who are teenagers. Giving them some extra time each night with their parents is not important to them. But having an extra day to do something big, explore a new place, go to new museums, take small road trips, go camping, etc. - that makes a difference in their life. When they get older and go off on their own, though, I would agree with you - a short daily work…

That sounds awesome! If you don't mind sharing, how do you manage school obligations?

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by meheleventyone »

lostcohort wrote: post #51
lvl102 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s be honest, if you ever worked in East Asian countries with these work ethic culture, you’d know they just sit around the office doing absolutely nothing. It’s bullshit.

Even on this very forum you people will consistently brag that they only work a couple hours a week at their 500k job.

Not even just this forum, there have been plenty of articles about data of varying quality showing that vanishingly few people actually work a full 8 hour day and/or are capable of actually sustaining heavy thought for that long anyway!

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by rg111 »

You do not say how.

If you mean in terms of productivity, I agree with you. Having a clear boundary between workday and free-time is a clear productivity multiplier for me. This is much better than one more extra day-off.

I can also maintain peace of mind throughtout the week if I do not do any work at all agter designated boundary.

This is true, when you want to do what you do. But when you work mostly for a paycheck, I will disagree with you. Then an extra day-off is so much better than a shorter work day.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by kahon65 »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #49

I disagree. I have 6-7 hour workdays. That's nice but no nearly as nice as another free day. I still feel like I have no time for my own life/projects. I still feel exhausted after working even 6-7-hours (because I'm not a morning person naturally yet have to go work in the morning) and the evening time (nor even an evening nap) never actually feels nice if I worked that day. I go out on Saturday, sleep until evening…

Change job dude, you are going to have a burn out

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Post by sdevonoes »

coldtrait wrote: post #60

What country is this? I just moved to India from the US and was surprised that it was 9-6 here instead of the 9-5 I was used to. And everyone here is used to overworking.

Just be sure you don't acquire bad habits of the country your are living in ;)

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Post by metabro »

There just is so much work that I don’t get how working 4 days will workout. The work isn’t going to scale down. The deadlines I don’t think will change.

At my company which is a very typical big sv company, no one is watching how long you work but the work needs to get done.

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Post by code51 »

ErrantX wrote: post #55

So I am seeing more and more of ideas like this; but I feel the need to challenge them a bit. Not the ideal; work less, have more fulfilling lives - I am all in. But all of these initiatives are focused on the wealthier office workers and sometimes factory/shift workers who are non-customer facing. But it totally ignores the service industry which is a huge part of our society (and arguably even more so if we end up…

UBI first then automate? or Automate first, then UBI? Massively different options for millions of people.
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