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Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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This is a great way to get microplastic through abrasion into even more places within the foodchain. Wonder if it burns nicely too, plastic after all is "frozen gasoline" - here mixed with sand. /debbiedowner

Asphalt also emits microparticles during wear and tear, as do tires... It needs to be tested, not assumed.

Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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lead is just a metal...

Microplastics can be much smaller than sand, and may play a role in persistent inflammation*, though really, we just don't know yet. The safe default assumption is maybe don't spill massive quantities of a completely novel compound into the entire biosphere. Its an action we can't undo and will have implications for generations.

* https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004896971...

Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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This is brilliant. It's like asphalt, which is just concrete (cement, sand and lime) with some of the cement replaced with oil/tar. This is that same idea but using plastic not oil/tar. Truly brilliant. It's a new type of composite building material.

The bricks will aspirate toxic chemicals when exposed to direct sunlight: "...Plastics leached twice as much pollution in sunlight as in darkness, they found. One bag leached 263 different chemicals in the dark but more than 13,000 when exposed to light! Others leached even more. And the longer bags were exposed to sunlight, the more chemicals they leached. ..." https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/everyday…

They could paint them once installed, like nearly every building on the planet. Simple problem, simple solution.

Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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The bricks will aspirate toxic chemicals when exposed to direct sunlight: "...Plastics leached twice as much pollution in sunlight as in darkness, they found. One bag leached 263 different chemicals in the dark but more than 13,000 when exposed to light! Others leached even more. And the longer bags were exposed to sunlight, the more chemicals they leached. ..." https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/everyday…

How does one even begin to address concerns about toxicity with so many different chemicals? Go in order of concentration? Most to least likely to be biologically active based on models? Cluster them and evaluate the clusters?

Slowly make less every year, the goal of rohs, reach, etc. Then work to sequester/store/recycle/breakdown what we've already made in a responsible, economical, and non planet destroying way.

Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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The bricks will aspirate toxic chemicals when exposed to direct sunlight: "...Plastics leached twice as much pollution in sunlight as in darkness, they found. One bag leached 263 different chemicals in the dark but more than 13,000 when exposed to light! Others leached even more. And the longer bags were exposed to sunlight, the more chemicals they leached. ..." https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/everyday…

Mixing graphite into HDPE appears to make it immune to UV photo-degradation. There’s even a company that capitalizes on this by making durable boat hulls with it: https://tidemanboats.com/ Not sure how it holds up in plasphalt, but it could be worth exploring graphite additives.

Exactly. It's called uv stabilization. When spec'ing a resin for a product a designer can choose to go with a UV stabilized resin, which is ok in the sun. Basically they add dirt, titanium oxide, other oxides to the plastic to mechanically block the uv waves.

Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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Can they be recycled, or is it another dead end? Trash brick projects are popping up every few months or so. It seems more like a cheap filler material than a sustainable product.

if it's a brick, couldnt you recycle it by using it wherever else you need a brick?

Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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The bricks will aspirate toxic chemicals when exposed to direct sunlight: "...Plastics leached twice as much pollution in sunlight as in darkness, they found. One bag leached 263 different chemicals in the dark but more than 13,000 when exposed to light! Others leached even more. And the longer bags were exposed to sunlight, the more chemicals they leached. ..." https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/everyday…

This is where “new car smell” comes from too.

And it's worth noting that this problem that the OP brings up is literally present in every plastic product in our modern world. It's easy to pick apart new ideas with problems that are true for every other existing product. People are like wait, this isn't X, or Y, but it's like neither is the existing status quo, but it is incrementally better in X and Y, so it's going in the right direction, therefore worth doing.

Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

#49

When the concrete weathers, will the plastic in the bricks turn into micro-plastic?

It will break down much more slowly as a solid object than as separate pieces of plastic. It will likely be painted or covered with a facing anyway.

Re: Engineer turns plastic into bricks that are reportedly stronger than concrete

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This is where “new car smell” comes from too.

And it's worth noting that this problem that the OP brings up is literally present in every plastic product in our modern world. It's easy to pick apart new ideas with problems that are true for every other existing product. People are like wait, this isn't X, or Y, but it's like neither is the existing status quo, but it is incrementally better in X and Y, so it's going in the right direction, therefore worth doing.

I think the incrementally better argument is missing the idea that we could do something else with the material or fix it before we start using it. By making buildings or roads or whatever out of material that leaches toxic chemicals over time, we are still putting toxic waste everywhere which can slowly have large effects to our environment.

Just imagine being alongside Henry Ford and him making the same argument, "Yeah, gasoline stinks a little but it's definitely better than horse droppings!" Then fast forward to our current global climate problems.

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