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Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by justin66 »

BaseballPhysics wrote: post #142
coder543 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My framework laptop had no issues with the hinge whatsoever. It honestly might have been a little too stiff for my tastes, but it functioned perfectly, and the screen never budged without me moving it intentionally. (Past tense is because I recently sold it as I was using my M1 MBA way more often, mainly due to how long the framework laptop took to come out of sleep mode by comparison. This isn't really a slight agai…

I have to admit, after roughly 9 months of use, while initially I didn't have issues with the hinge, I've definitely noticed the display tends to flop around when I'm picking up and moving the laptop, or when riding the bus where the laptop is shifting around. For context, my previous laptop was a 5th gen X1 Carbon and I never had that issue with that machine. I also can't shake the feeling that the hinge has loosene…

> I also can't shake the feeling that the hinge has loosened up a bit, but that's purely anecdotal.

I feel like the amount of resistance the lid has to flopping over actually varies, which is strange.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by pedro2 »

deng wrote: post #101
nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.

Does the laptop support proper S3 sleep, or is this impossible with modern Intel CPUs?

I was under the impression it was largely a BIOS option.

Basically if S0idle is advertised as supported, S3 isn't.

On recent BIOS on Thinkpads this tends to be an option which can be toggled.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by sschueller »

pimterry wrote: post #164
nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.

What are the constraints that are blocking wider EU availability? Right now, in Europe it's only available in a handful of countries (5 of 27). I'm in Spain, and I see I can spec a perfect machine and get it delivered just over the border in France, but I can't get the same thing delivered here just a couple of hours away, which is very surprising! My understanding was the single market & customs union etc should mak…

Will Switzerland ever be able to order them with a Swiss German Keyboard?

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by pauke »

Goronmon wrote: post #154
sryie wrote: post #136

I recently received my first framework laptop after being a loyal Thinkpad user for years. I am loving it so far. I run Ubuntu 22.04 daily and have not had any issues with battery life or the lid (but I do typically leave it plugged in during lunch and overnight). The expansion cards are brilliant and the keyboard is comparable to my old t-series. The aspect ratio is great for coding and I'm happy to see upgradeabili…

I recently received my first framework laptop after being a loyal Thinkpad user for years. I get excited about different laptops occasionally...and then I remember that I won't have a trackpoint if I switch to a different brand, and I get disappointed. Literally happens every few months.

Business class Dells and HPs have one too. Named differently because TM but good enough.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by ncallaway »

justin66 wrote: post #108
nrp wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the lid drops when the laptop is stationary, the hinge is out of spec and we'll send you a replacement through our support channel.

I'll look into that. Thanks!

As feedback, I had the same problem that you had. I reached out to support, they had me send in a video, agreed that the hinge was out of spec and mailed me a new one.

I installed the new hinge, and it’s more rigid. I no longer have the problem of the laptop falling open when typing on my lap.

Highly recommend contacting support for the hinge issue if you have it to.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

mhitza wrote: post #120
chrisseaton wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is AMD so important to you? Are there any instruction set extensions these days that are only available on AMD? I can only think of things that are the other way around - only on Intel. And if you need something niche like some SIMD extension I guess you're running a server not a laptop?

Because at the moment AMD is the least scummy of the two x86 chip manufacturers. Intel as the only feasible player in town for a good segment of time, asked premium prices for meager performance increases, generation by generation. Mainly is just out of principle and voting with my wallet.

I was choosing AMD even when they didn't have the better processors on the market, for this very reason.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by jillesvangurp »

rgrmrts wrote: post #41

I would buy a 15/16” version of this in a heartbeat :) I really hope another chassis with a larger screen is in the cards for framework!

Hdpi, with a more sane aspect ratio and hdr that is suitable for graphics work would be high on my wish list.

I actually like using Darktable. And I like using it on a good screen better. So even though I have a Linux laptop that runs Darktable very nicely (even with just Intel Xe graphics), I actually do a lot of photo editing on my 8 year old imac, which has a 5K screen, fantastic contrast & colors, etc. It shows me stuff my laptop is simply incapable of showing. Darktable runs like a dog on it but at least I can see what I'm doing properly and have enough screen real estate to actually fit the tools in the sidebar on the screen without having to scroll.

I'd love to see Linux laptop that is optimal for graphics, movie editing, etc. Mediocre 1080p screens are simply not good enough anymore. Apple stopped shipping anything non hdpi years ago. Even the cheapest macbook air has a decent screen. Decent contrast, easy to calibrate, beautiful colors and excellent dynamic range. Probably best in class by any objective measure. Why can't Linux users get screens that good? It's not like Apple doesn't buy their parts from the same usual suspects in China and Korea when it comes to screens and other things you need to build a laptop.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by Terretta »

BirAdam wrote: post #172

Why oh why does every decent laptop have a 1080p screen? Apparently, if I want something other than 1080p I either buy a MacBook and pay the Apple Tax, or I buy something overpriced and often terrible in every other way?

> I either buy a MacBook and pay the Apple Tax, or I buy something overpriced and often terrible in every other way?

So it’s not really a tax then, it’s a quality cost.

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