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Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#61
Probably best to build a bucket list so life doesnt become too boring with just work, prioritise them, have some contingency backup and then see what you think you can achieve.

It can take time working back from where you want to be in the future, you'll have a lot to learn, things you didnt consider will appear, other people may try to sidetrack you for their own reasons which can mean sacrifices.

Above all else try to plan ahead, maintaining physical fitness is good for the brain because the aging process will get you to some extent potentially making your job/aspirations harder.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#62
post #34

If you want to be "exciting" (the opposite of boring) you'll always feel like you aren't living up to your potential; just like how power lifters always think their muscles are small and anorexic instagram models don't think they're skinny enough. Balance is much more rewarding. Do good work, work that pays, that you're good at, that you can be proud of. Then go home. Switch off, and enjoy your hobbies. Learn an inst…

Really? Most of the entrepreneurs I've met have had to do a lot of work, but none of them (this is my personal experience) regret striking out on their own. Advocating for a resigned alienation from one's work is advocating for living one's life for other people. I don't buy it.

Also, "Advocating for a resigned alienation from one's work is advocating for living one's life for other people." I agree with that. I'm not advocating for resigned alienation. That's a very extreme interpretation of what I wrote.

I recommend finding a good work-life balance. Good work is a part of that. Working hard a good job with good coworkers is very rewarding. But putting all your eggs in the basket of your job is not.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#63
You can pursue both excitement & smaller ideas as well! You can also pickup various other activities that are highly fulfilling, such as teaching (this could be mentoring juniors or teaching tech to college kids)

You could independently pursue smaller ideas that would lead to a greater fulfillment in life.

That being said, you can be entrepreneurial within big tech companies & run pilots for self made projects (gmail was created this way).

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#64
I have spent my early and mid 20s working on copycat Startups. Some made money, some not. I have learnt entrepreneurship in the hard way like lack of funding, unreliable partners, rough market conditions and disruption by other solutions. It made me more mature and conscious in life, however I know I missed out many things my peers experienced: travels, relationships, marriage, kids, whatever makes a person happy.

Entrepreneurship can be extremely hard. Believe me. All the people who become successful in their 20s by starting a company is just a small fraction of whoever tried.

However entrepreneurial mindset is very applicable for most of the jobs and useful mindset in every aspect of ones life. Trial/error/retry, build-measure-learn like Lean, any Agile framework teaches the same: adapt to change. It doesn't matter if you are about to build an app or try out a new sport, you should always be open to adjust your strategy to approach things.

Don't be afraid of spending your 20's/30's in employment, whichever company, your brightest ideas will come later as you progress in life and career. You can still surround yourself with people who are wiser and more experienced regardless of your current occupation.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#65

Find what's fulfilling for you. For me, it was not fulfilling to be shut out of the private equity markets because I made too little as a wage slave. It was not fulfilling for me to not have the choice of hopping out to month long festivals, because I was merely earning UP TO 2 weeks of time off, or the unlimited vacation policy was just 2 weeks of time because the expectations from the manager were the same. For oth…

What life choices did you make to be able to have access to private equity markets but also go to month-long festivals? Also what festivals are a month long? I have a feeling we may be in different tax brackets haha.

> What life choices did you make to be able to have access to private equity markets but also go to month-long festivals?

Some entrepreneurial things worked out, some speculative things worked out, they're not mutually exclusive to me.

(When I do an entrepreneurial thing, I think of the shares I create as being part of my portfolio just like shares I bought from someone else. Its the same buy low, sell high mentality to me. Pocketing some/alot of the revenue is an option as well, if there is any revenue, ha.)

Also, turns out accredited investor status (and similar wealth thresholds for financial products) are "self-certifications", which is a euphemism for lying. Took me longer than it should have to catch on to that. The only exception being a Reg D 506(c) offerings, which require proof of accredited investor status. It also took me a while to understand that the consequence isn't on the individual, its on the person selling shares. And they want your money, they just need to check a box. The government says "you can check that box, if they say so". So, no sanction on them as long as they ask (for the most part), and you don't act like a poor person scrounging around for the money you said you had. Maybe one of those private investments hit, and never look back. Better than wasting 4-8 years of your life being paid in lottery tickets across a handful of companies, lottery tickets that have worse odds than the investors of the same company have purchased.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a great counterpoint quote from Edward Abbey: "One final paragraph of advice: do not burn yourselves out. Be as I am - a reluctant enthusiast....a part-time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic. Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it’s still here. So get out there and hunt an…

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but that seems complementary to Watterson's quote, not a counter to it?

Same. Maybe they just used counterpoint incorrectly? Misunderstanding?

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#67
To quote Kurt Vonnegut:

> What I had to say to you, moreover, would not take long, to wit: Practice any art, music, singing, dancing, acting, drawing, painting, sculpting, poetry, fiction, essays, reportage, no matter how well or badly, not to get money and fame, but to experience becoming, to find out what’s inside you, to make your soul grow.

I want to add to it that it doesn't matter where you find space for it – if your day job is 'boring', as in not giving you an opportunity for self actualization, you can find space for it in relationships and in hobbies, in sport and in art.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#68
post #5

Be wary of advice from a successful entrepreneur. They've gambled and won. Unless you want to be an entrepreneur and you're also ok with the idea of failing and never becoming rich from it, their advice might not apply to you and your life.

I'm doubly wary of unsuccessful people telling me it's (nearly) impossible to be successful. Can't never could.

You need to look at it statistically though. Many more have failed than succeeded and while not exactly the same, your argument could be used for someone wanting to be a FIFA or NFL athlete. Sure, some succeed, but many don't. Same with the million-dollar business idea.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#70

I think when you are 40 you will get midlife crisis and start becoming entrepreneurial/creative/out of the box again. For now just enjoy the money, the relationships, take care of your body. You will need all of these when you go into your creative mid-life crisis bout.

I've gotten to the midlife crisis part... but with a large family and a mortgage, I think crisis mode is going to linger until I finish paying off my mortgage in a couple years. For some reason my wife doesn't like the idea of me quitting my dev job and buying a farm out in the country. So I'm the guy that grows things on every square inch of land and raises chickens, rabbits, and anything else my zoning ordinance allows. If I could farm and write software remotely on a part-time basis, I think I would like that. That's part of the problem with these big changes in life. You never quite know how it's going to impact you. But you'll never know if you don't try, right? And the idea of part-time software development seems almost blasphemous in the era of "go go go" sprints.
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