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Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

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Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#21
There are lots of ways to be creative and keep your life interesting that have nothing to do with being an entrepreneur. You can consume or create any type of art, learn about things unrelated to your career, do outdoors stuff, participate in various communities, do charity work etc etc. And if you're making big money at your "boring" job, you don't have to worry about marketing these skills or even being very good at them, it can just be for your own fulfillment.

Our industry obsesses over successful entrepreneurs, and it's fine if that what you want to do, but don't let it blind you to everything else life has to offer.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

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Be wary of advice from a successful entrepreneur. They've gambled and won. Unless you want to be an entrepreneur and you're also ok with the idea of failing and never becoming rich from it, their advice might not apply to you and your life.

I'm doubly wary of unsuccessful people telling me it's (nearly) impossible to be successful. Can't never could.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#24
Mentor are just that. It's your life, follow it the way you want, whichever way feels right, and don't submit to FOMO.

Every decade or so you'll notice you're changing, you're not the same person. It's okay, it's part of life. Getting children for example will deeply change your perspective in life on what is important and what is frivolous society dreams.

As you're moving into a position of more stability, you might be wondering if this is it. And that's a normal thing to think about. The sudden feeling that a block falls into place demands whether or not this is a good thing after all. Shift your focus towards other things that may spark your interest. Working fast and hard is only a facet of modern life.

Do whatever makes you happy, or head in that direction and don't sweat the details. If however you feel you're headed in the wrong direction, then don't be afraid of bold moves. That's what never settling means; I don't think it means keep chasing your tail like wild pup. If one good thing falls into place, it's an opportunity to shift focus onto something else and try to excel there too.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#25
From Bill Watterson's commencement speech at Kenyon College in 1990. I was lucky to read this when I was graduating and it changed my whole career path. I am now very happy and very boring:

"Creating a life that reflects your values and satisfies your soul is a rare achievement. In a culture that relentlessly promotes avarice and excess as the good life, a person happy doing his own work is usually considered an eccentric, if not a subversive. Ambition is only understood if it's to rise to the top of some imaginary ladder of success. Someone who takes an undemanding job because it affords him the time to pursue other interests and activities is considered a flake. A person who abandons a career in order to stay home and raise children is considered not to be living up to his potential-as if a job title and salary are the sole measure of human worth.

You'll be told in a hundred ways, some subtle and some not, to keep climbing, and never be satisfied with where you are, who you are, and what you're doing. There are a million ways to sell yourself out, and I guarantee you'll hear about them.

To invent your own life's meaning is not easy, but it's still allowed, and I think you'll be happier for the trouble."

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

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What an oddly judgmental piece of advice from a mentor. I'd take it with a pinch of salt and instead think in terms of problems instead of solutions e.g. what do you hope me to achieve by "not being boring"?

I'm in my late 30s and I find that energy ebbs and flows through life and career. Sometimes you are excited and energized and you can channel that for change. Other times you are down for whatever reason. Take care of your self, and learn how you do your best work.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

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post #5

Be wary of advice from a successful entrepreneur. They've gambled and won. Unless you want to be an entrepreneur and you're also ok with the idea of failing and never becoming rich from it, their advice might not apply to you and your life.

Also, don't assume that all entrepreneurs are edgy risk-takers. Many entrepreneurs find a niche that they can fill, using innovation to reduce their risk to a manageable level.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#28
I don't want to seem condescending, so I have to ask you to please bear with me: what led you to believe that those big ideas are achievable? Sheer youthful exuberance? The forgivable hubris of one who outshines most of their peers intellectually while still in a small-pond environment? Perhaps in our youths, we were not informed that world-changing ideas require not just the eurekan spark, nor the 99-percent perspiration of genius, and nothing so easily roadmapped as the once insightful, now trite 10,000 hours... but instead, the near-zealotry required to fight a sort of tide. It's the tide of a world which has naturally evolved against constantly reshaping itself in the image of each incoming wave of fresh youth with ideas that are reminiscent of "if I ran this place..." It's not entirely dissimilar from your body, which cannot tell a good mutation from bad, and so we're left with the onees who slip or muscle past our defenses, tiny fragment by fragment over eons.

You still believe, and have proof, that just about any one human can achieve incredible things. You know this because you have some hero who forewent significant parts of their lives in exchange for the mere lottery ticket of succeeding in the thing you admire them for. Many just like them failed at that same shot, and we are left without much reverence for the invisible graveyard of the almost-Jobs, almost-Gandhis, almost-Curies, et. al.

If the world was set up with immense reward in mind for those who change it for (let's not quibble on definitions, but:) the better, maybe human superstructures would have a lower baked-in resistance to change. Maybe. But the meager quantity of right-tail prizes available mean that most would hardly sacrifice a little comfort, let alone the sum totality of their possible lives they could live, for what? A lance lofted at a windmill.

If you wanted to give up everything and chase your big ideas, which at a young age, or even long from now, or tomorrow, you could. You could, seriously. And because you're on this forum you're probablistically understand risk scenarios enough to gauge the odds of success in exchange for your massive sacrifice.

I think about this all the time, too. Your average person will hardly give up the tiniest comfort, but how could we judge them or ourselves for it? It's not nature's fault nor ours that this same selfishness is how we killed to eat for all these millennia.

Anyone with too firm of an answer to this whole riddle fancies themselves a hegemon.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#29
I really like this essay [0] by cryptographer Moxie, specifically this section about starting a new career:

"...simply observe the older people working there.

They are the future you. Do not think that you will be substantially different. Look carefully at how they spend their time at work and outside of work, because this is also almost certainly how your life will look. It sounds obvious, but it’s amazing how often young people imagine a different projection for themselves.

Look at the real people, and you’ll see the honest future for yourself."

I also think money is really nice, but should not be a means unto itself.

I used to bartend in a wealthy area. Lots of folks on this little town would get tipsy and start talking about how much money they have.

One of my barometers for life is to have things I'm more passionate to talk about than wealth accumulation when I'm tipsy in a bar.

[0] https://moxie.org/2013/01/07/career-advice.html

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on being “boring”

#30

Political instability, the decline of post-war culture, and the ascendency of the Global South is going to define your lifetime if you live long enough. The, "big ideas" are mostly bullshit. Read, "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell. You're not Luke Skywalker, Neo, Harry Potter, or Elizabeth Swan. Do what you want and be free. You're not the main character and if you can realize that at some sincere l…

There was an age (about 25 or so) where this lesson beat me over the head until I finally accepted it. It was very freeing. Ironically, it lead to the most professional and artistic growth I had experienced as a result.

Turns out that focusing on what's right in front of you and ignoring "big ideas" (which are often more practical for aesthetics and performative identity over material reality) actually frees you to pursue what you really want. By trying to worry too much about "big ideas" I was actually being lazy/anxious about doing the actual work to figure out the "interesting ideas" that I actually wanted to pursue, "bigness" be damned.

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