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Ask HN: What can I do today to prepare for anti-aging tech of the future?

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Re: Ask HN: What can I do today to prepare for anti-aging tech of the future?

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Among the most promising anti-aging drugs is metformin.

Type 2 diabetics on metformin live 15% longer than non-diabetics. This is remarkable considering how big a health disadvantage diabetes itself is.

Metformin seems to mimic fasting somehow, by interfering with mitochondrial function.

For more information I refer you to David Sinclair's numerous discussions on this topic. He takes 1 gram of metformin per day with his evening meal.

This is not medical advice.

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Have children. That’s the easy natural way to prolong the life of your genes, the unit evolution and natural selection works with. Kids and grandkids also keep you on your toes and help you feel younger. Technology to extend the life of an individual so far only extends the more grim elderly part, which unfairly imposes costs on the young with no offsetting benefit. Wanting to live forever or get revived somehow in t…

Having children or grandchildren is even more of a reason to be interested in research that prevents the diseases of aging (longevity). When you get the diseases of aging that precede death, like Alzheimer’s or cancer or heart disease or just simply becoming frail, your children and grandchildren suffer greatly. What is narcissistic about not wanting your children and grandchildren to watch you suffer one or more of the extremely predictable diseases of aging and perhaps need to stop their own lives to become your caretaker?

Longevity research has never been about extending the sick part of life. It’s about avoiding the sick part of life for as long as possible.

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Get rich. The average or even moderately wealthy probably won't have any chance at access to these technologies if they come to fruition. You'll also need a lot of extra wealth to keep yourself from an extra-long dotage in poverty. For myself, I plan to die before I hit 60. I'm not going to spend decades in pain and misery for no reason, life already sucks without my body falling apart. Kevorkian diet all the way!

What happens if you are still alive at the age of 60?

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Get rich. The average or even moderately wealthy probably won't have any chance at access to these technologies if they come to fruition. You'll also need a lot of extra wealth to keep yourself from an extra-long dotage in poverty. For myself, I plan to die before I hit 60. I'm not going to spend decades in pain and misery for no reason, life already sucks without my body falling apart. Kevorkian diet all the way!

No other medical treatments work this way. Private insurance and socialized healthcare systems will jump at the chance to prevent their members from becoming afflicted with the extremely predictable and expensive diseases of aging (Alzheimers, cancer, heart disease…)

People say “if it ever comes it will only be for the super rich” because they are afraid to let themselves experience the emotion of wanting something that might not be possible.

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The NIH Interventions Testing Program has identified 6 compounds that significantly extend HEALTHY life (in model animals). Some of these compounds have been tested in multiple model animals and the effect is conserved across all of them.

Human trials are expensive and obviously take multiple decades, so you’ll be dead before to see that data.

The compounds so far are:

rapamycin, acarbose, 17-alpha-estradiol, canagliflozin, asthaxanthin, meclizine

Re: Ask HN: What can I do today to prepare for anti-aging tech of the future?

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post #10

Get rich. The average or even moderately wealthy probably won't have any chance at access to these technologies if they come to fruition. You'll also need a lot of extra wealth to keep yourself from an extra-long dotage in poverty. For myself, I plan to die before I hit 60. I'm not going to spend decades in pain and misery for no reason, life already sucks without my body falling apart. Kevorkian diet all the way!

What happens if you are still alive at the age of 60?

If I'm not in pain, I don't care. If I live in pain, I'll get myself some painkillers and take them all probably.

Re: Ask HN: What can I do today to prepare for anti-aging tech of the future?

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post #10

Get rich. The average or even moderately wealthy probably won't have any chance at access to these technologies if they come to fruition. You'll also need a lot of extra wealth to keep yourself from an extra-long dotage in poverty. For myself, I plan to die before I hit 60. I'm not going to spend decades in pain and misery for no reason, life already sucks without my body falling apart. Kevorkian diet all the way!

I've known several active people in their mid-70s. If you're generally healthy and active you should be okay until 70.

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Among the most promising anti-aging drugs is metformin. Type 2 diabetics on metformin live 15% longer than non-diabetics. This is remarkable considering how big a health disadvantage diabetes itself is. Metformin seems to mimic fasting somehow, by interfering with mitochondrial function. For more information I refer you to David Sinclair's numerous discussions on this topic. He takes 1 gram of metformin per day with…

IIRC metformin may also cause fertility problem in men, after prolonged use (which is required to get slow-aging effect).

Re: Ask HN: What can I do today to prepare for anti-aging tech of the future?

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post #10

Get rich. The average or even moderately wealthy probably won't have any chance at access to these technologies if they come to fruition. You'll also need a lot of extra wealth to keep yourself from an extra-long dotage in poverty. For myself, I plan to die before I hit 60. I'm not going to spend decades in pain and misery for no reason, life already sucks without my body falling apart. Kevorkian diet all the way!

You will have stopped existing way before your body reaches 60.

What I mean by this is that current-you and 60-year-old you will be so different from each other that they could be different individuals entirely. You will likely still share some atoms by mere chance, but most of your 60yo body will be made of different atoms. 60yo’s mind will have many memories and experiences in common with you, but also a bunch of different ones. And their circumstances will also be different.

Think about 10-year-old you. Did they have plans for current-you? Have you fulfilled those plans?

Re: Ask HN: What can I do today to prepare for anti-aging tech of the future?

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post #18

Among the most promising anti-aging drugs is metformin. Type 2 diabetics on metformin live 15% longer than non-diabetics. This is remarkable considering how big a health disadvantage diabetes itself is. Metformin seems to mimic fasting somehow, by interfering with mitochondrial function. For more information I refer you to David Sinclair's numerous discussions on this topic. He takes 1 gram of metformin per day with…

IIRC metformin may also cause fertility problem in men, after prolonged use (which is required to get slow-aging effect).

That is correct. Metformin has a number of downsides.

You will lose your appetite and it will be hard to want to eat. You will tend to lose weight and eat just enough.

It can make you nauseous and you will probably find the bitter taste and fishy (amine) smell of the pills to be repulsive.

It is not an easy drug to take, and like you said, it may also affect male fertility.

But it is well-studied and safe, and offers various benefits.

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