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Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by raxxorraxor »

georgeecollins wrote: post #227
philistine wrote: post #103

What you’re describing is data hoarding. I pirate a ton too, but you know what I do with a movie or TV show after I’ve watched it? I delete it. Poof, gone. But it’s still in the most important dataset I have. My memory. To help with the metadata of my own memory, I write down a list of the films I’ve seen. I only keep the movies I really love and want to rewatch (Robocop). That TV show I just finished that was great…

I don't pirate, I pay for content, but I like to own a digital copy of music content. So I buy MP3s rather than subscribe to a service. It's probably strange-- and maybe dumb-- but I feel like in the long run I never know what will happen to a service in terms of how it may change in price or quality. If I own a CD or an MP3, I know I have what I want. It may not be rational. I know some people think I am crazy.

I don't think this is irrational at all.

Listening "offline" by installing a shitty app is a severe service problem. It punishes me as a customer and doesn't stop any piracy anyway.

Files are just so much more flexible than an app. From my favorite artists I usually still buy CD since there are almost no alternatives. Of course I would prefer a digital download. Some offer it and that is much appreciated.

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by sn_fk_n »

nunez wrote: post #330
philistine wrote: post #103

What you’re describing is data hoarding. I pirate a ton too, but you know what I do with a movie or TV show after I’ve watched it? I delete it. Poof, gone. But it’s still in the most important dataset I have. My memory. To help with the metadata of my own memory, I write down a list of the films I’ve seen. I only keep the movies I really love and want to rewatch (Robocop). That TV show I just finished that was great…

I am 100% against hoarding, but data hoarding makes a lot more sense to me. I was looking for an album by a small punk band called Straighten Things Out called "Dawn Of A New Hope". Loved this album; listened to it all of the time on Apple Music (where I discovered it). Went on a walk one day and tried to load it...and it was gone. I can't even find this album on eBay, and you can find everything there! "Milo Goes To…

I'm sure you can find the former on music peer to peer services ;)

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by iRomain »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #14

When Netflix first launched, it was great - they had a massive catalogue of older/pre-existing content, and were making a bunch of their own new, original content that likely wouldn't have been made elsewhere. Their UX was also pretty great - and made finding interesting content easy. They made it dead-easy to sign up, there was no pushy retention teams or hoops to jump through if you wanted to cancel. That's why I p…

I have a subscription to Disney+ here in Thailand...

1. I could not download the right Disney+ app on my Android TV because my Google account is French

2. I could download the right app on my iPhone (after temporarily switching stores which is a PITA) so I bought a cable to stream from my iPhone to my TV but the app doesn’t allow me to

3. I bought a Raspberry Pi and installed Plex and al. I can now watch the Disney movies easily on my TV.

I have a subscription to Netflix…

1. I went off-internet for a week, so I synced a couple of movies to be available offline.

2. I started watching one on the first day and 48h hours later it expired…

3. Next time I will use my Plex setup!

I must be very dumb to keep paying for these two subscriptions!

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by nkrisc »

ryandrake wrote: post #312
pirate-Loo6uoDu wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not, I'm living well within my means. If I was concerned about the money I could probably spend more of my time to find the content on sketchy streaming sites like putlocker.

[re-parenting this comment under OP] I don't think what you were describing is a "problem" at all. And it looks like you don't view at it as a problem, either. Not sure why so many of the replies in this article are trying to interpret your post as some kind of call for help. I hate the phrase "Data Hoarding" because the word hoarding has negative connotations that don't apply to collecting digital media. When you lo…

Even data "hoarding" can be a problem for someone if it begins to consume their life. Sure, the physical consequences aren't as severe as hoarding old junk in your house, but it could possibly become a physical and mental problem for someone. Sure sounds like that is not the case for the OP, as it all sounded like a bit of a joke to begin with. But I'm sure you could find someone for whom data hoarding is a real problem that negatively affects their life if they feel compelled to constantly seek out stuff to archive and begin filling their house with storage media.

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by nunez »

vintermann wrote: post #375
nunez wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am 100% against hoarding, but data hoarding makes a lot more sense to me. I was looking for an album by a small punk band called Straighten Things Out called "Dawn Of A New Hope". Loved this album; listened to it all of the time on Apple Music (where I discovered it). Went on a walk one day and tried to load it...and it was gone. I can't even find this album on eBay, and you can find everything there! "Milo Goes To…

That small punk bands are a sensible target for data hoarding isn't surprising, but you know one I found out that's surprising? Riverdance. Yeah, the Eurovision pause show from 1994 which became a huge hit and started a decade-long fad of various rhytmic dance ensembles touring the world and actually doing really well. Fantastic commercial success, of course. They did many CD releases, and there are a lot of differen…

Yup, all of the niche genres that have (relatively) smaller listener counts don't make enough from the streams to make paying for older releases worth it. Sucks.

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by joshgachnang »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #306
joshgachnang wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say that, but a lot of older shows become increasingly hard to get copies of the longer from the air date you get (legally or pirated)

I have not had that experience as a pirater of TV shows, I can have pretty much always been able to get anything I ever wanted that I ever could before, through the sources I use. But certainly there is no guarantee, that is true. (I don't use usenet as a source, myself).

Yeah, it's probably a natural effect of using usenet with its built in retention. Definitely once you get past 10 years (typical retention is ~3000 days), things drop off a lot because no one re-uploads them.

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by SympleScience »

jabroni_salad wrote: post #70
throwaway110535 wrote: post #18

I too tried to get into usenet for downloading shows I wanted to watch, but I couldn't justify the cost (in time) that it would take to build/maintain a system that automatically downloads the latest episodes of select shows. I deal w/ software all day at work. As I've gotten older, the less I want to also deal w/ software at home.

Aside from the initial fiddling I have not needed to do much of anything to my setup. It's all containerized and unraid's manager keeps them up to date for me.

Sounds like a great setup, do you have any references to guides so I can set up my own?
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