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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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What's wrong with Samsung S22? It is 6.1 inches (author mentions 6' but I find this close enough), cameras are great and while not stock Android the OneUI stuff is not annoying for me at least. Plus it does have some of the other ideal/nice to have, although not a perfect fit. I have to admit the S22 is one of the smallest high end Android phones that caught my eye.

I don't get the desire for a small phone personally. Very happy with the S22 Ultra.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

> people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly I'll be blunt: no I won't. I reluctantly bought the phone I still use (a moto X4) back in 2019, at which point it was already getting old. It was one of the smaller Android phones available at the time; I measured it diagonally corner to corner (including bezel) at 159 mm (6.26 inches). The screen size is 130 mm (5.2 in) according to Wikipedia. Thi…

> until it breaks, becomes unusable

I decided to die on a different hill-- physical keyboard. The blackberry keytwo wasn't perfect but it was definitely one of my favorite devices I've ever owned.

And now AT&T will no longer support phone calls on it. Planned obsolescence isn't so easy to run and hide from. They will dash your usable, friendly, pleasing devices from your hands and sneer at you for daring to want better.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I've had one for 2 years now. Love it and agree with all Eric's points except

> are easy to use one-handed without dropping

I find it very hard to use one handed and it keeps slipping through my fingers if I try to type on it one handed. Also my finger constantly partially block the rear camera when taking pictures. It probably has something to do with the size of my hands. Otherwise, I love how light it is and you barely notice it in your pocket when walking or biking.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I’m a long-time small phone Android user. But after the Pixel 5, I have not been able to find a suitable small Android replacement. The Pixel 6 is gigantic, and the Pixel 7 looks like it is also destined to be huge. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve resorted to using an iPhone Mini, biding my time and hoping desperately that some Android OEM would step up. But it’s increasingly clear that a small premium phone is not on t…

I've never owned a better phone than the Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G because it's substantially thinner and lighter than any other phone of that size. A smaller screen size may be nice but I've realised how much more I really care about the phone being thin and light. I don't even notice it in my back pocket. I'm now allergic to picking up the new heavy iPhones.

If the smaller screen wouldn't make the phone even thinner I probably wouldn't care enough to switch.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking about notch/hole-punch displays. As somebody who never ever uses front-facing camera, can I have a phone/display without such defects, please?

If you sum together the stuff people in this thread has suggested, you have the Homers Car of phones on your hands

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

> people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly I'll be blunt: no I won't. I reluctantly bought the phone I still use (a moto X4) back in 2019, at which point it was already getting old. It was one of the smaller Android phones available at the time; I measured it diagonally corner to corner (including bezel) at 159 mm (6.26 inches). The screen size is 130 mm (5.2 in) according to Wikipedia. Thi…

Smart phones are too useful and becoming too ingrained to life for the vast majority of people to not buy a phone off some sort.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I got an iPhone Mini hoping to be able to use it with one hand, but it wasn't small enough to do that (and I don't have small hands), so I returned it. I figured if I'm going to need a PopSocket anyway, I may as well have more screen space too I'm not surprised the Mini has been underperforming. I think it's in an awkward valley where it's not small enough for that to be an advantage, it's only small enough for it to…

My thoughts exactly. I am 6'4" and I have an iPhone 13 mini and even I think it's too big for my taste.

I simply need something that I can use comfortably with a single hand, small enough to call it compact and hide in my pocket.

I totally get the appeal of a bigger screen though. I can appreciate it for what it achieves: bigger screen means easy to read, good for watching media, playing games and easier to type on it. But for my use case, I want to AVOID making it that easy to do all of those things while still getting benefits of a smartphone, let alone an iPhone.

That's why I am really bummed that iPhone mini is going away. I don't think I'll switch to Android, because I have a lot of apple devices and the ecosystem integration is quite valuable for me.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

> people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly I'll be blunt: no I won't. I reluctantly bought the phone I still use (a moto X4) back in 2019, at which point it was already getting old. It was one of the smaller Android phones available at the time; I measured it diagonally corner to corner (including bezel) at 159 mm (6.26 inches). The screen size is 130 mm (5.2 in) according to Wikipedia. Thi…

Yeah, due to the ever-increasing difficulty of buying reasonably-sized phones, I've been keeping my phone longer and longer, well past the point of lag and annoyance where I'd prefer to buy a new one.... because there is no new one that I want. They're too big. They're worse for me than an out-of-support old phone that limps along and may require a third-party OS.

All told, I've probably bought less than half as many phones as I'd prefer. Yes, I do eventually buy one because they effectively are required nowadays, but that's quite a lot of money that isn't going into these company's hands.

Meanwhile, the rest of the market also seems to be lengthening their time between phone purchases..... and phone manufacturers respond by releasing bigger and more expensive phones year over year over year. I won't try to claim it's the majority of the cause, but surely there's some connection between those two.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I've been using my original pixel 2 since the day it came out. Still works like a charm. Fast, battery is good, small and the camera is great. I've been looking at getting an iPhone mini but what I get for the price doesn't seem to be that much better than what I have now.
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