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Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Oh cool, I've been looking for a mindmap app. Oh wait - it is a subscription? Why? That makes zero sense.

While I’m sympathetic to that, I’ve (somewhat) come around on the notion of “subscription apps” if the developers are responsible with it. I’ve found that in most cases, new features that would probably be held for major version releases (e.g., “this is a feature that would entice you to pay for the upgrade”) just come out when they’re ready; it’s essentially shifting the app to a rolling release model. The tradition…

Yes, sporadic use is a major issue on top of the fact that this is not SaaS and nothing lives in the cloud (which of course I don't want of a document creation tool anyway).

I am all for layers of features that cost money to unlock, but never ever ever on a subscription basis. It's like every developer out there heard that SaaS is where the money is at and decided that applied to their project out of dogma rather than a well reasoned business case.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Oh cool, I've been looking for a mindmap app. Oh wait - it is a subscription? Why? That makes zero sense.

I've been using the free version for years. Never needed any of the premium features to create a useful mindmap.

I will never invest my time into an app that I might need to pay for later if paying for it will require a subscription and it is not an SaaS or cloud based app.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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I'm fine with that. Newer OSes contain new features and APIs, and I can totally understand a developer wanting to build on top of some new feature instead of having to reinvent it themselves. Sometimes that's inconvenient for me, although I try to keep all my devices current. But if a dev wants to require an OS version that's shipped with every M1 Mac that's ever existed and chooses that as their cutoff, I get it.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Regarding the website: having a video embedded with zero control to mute or change it's audio volume is really insensitive UX. The annoying background music is not even necessary to actually get meaning from the video.

Sorry about that. I'm a one guy does many things. Maybe I missed on video sound, but it's tricky trying to make a text editor look interesting. I thought the music helped.

I hated the music and closed my browser the second I couldn't find a mute button.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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> An outliner (or outline processor) is a specialized type of text editor (word processor) used to create and edit outlines, which are text files which have a tree structure, for organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliner I'm not criticising use of the term, it seems familiar to (also used by) several commenters here, I just hadn't come across it. Guessed 'bulleted notes app' from the submission, which is c…

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Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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> Devices have audio controls, no need to repeat them in a video player You assume that the web page is the only source of audio happening on a device. If someone is listening to something on their machine while browsing articles and then needs to stop whatever is playing because the website is taking over the audio, that's very poor UX and is indeed insensitive to the user. Suppose you have a screen reader and now y…

Making me think that maybe you should be insensitive to certain users

> Making me think that maybe you should be insensitive to certain users

People with screen readers usually have an accessibility issue, so you are advocating to ignore the visually impaired, for example.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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I really like FoldingText that was also your development. Sadly, it's been discontinued. Looking forward to see if Bike feels as great as FoldingText.

FoldingText was an absolute work of art, best outliner I've ever used. It's one of those pieces of software I keep using, long after it has been discontinued, holding my breath with each OS release to see if this is the one that breaks it. That will literally be the only thing that keeps me from using it. I sincerely hope Bike adopts a lot of the same features!
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