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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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If you sum together the stuff people in this thread has suggested, you have the Homers Car of phones on your hands

It's this or a Youtube clip that's maybe monetized by Disney at best... https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/The_Homer The Homer was a car that Home Simpson built to exactly what they wanted without any tradeoffs for off the shelf components, trends, or sensibility of what currently was common. It's also somewhat design by committee, with features like a more luxurious bubble for the adults, and a micro-bubble for the ki…

I also suspect this fictional car might have been an ingredient in the market shifting from minivans to SUVs

The simpsons also did the canyonero:

https://youtu.be/PI_Jl5WFQkA

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I wonder if there isn't a third factor: 3. Android OEMs can't make a good small phone, even if there was the demand to produce it at scale Because of how efficient Apple's SoCs are compared to Snapdragons, Android phones typically have much larger batteries than iPhones while getting about the same battery life. Big battery requires a big phone. The occasional somewhat small Android phone (for example Galaxy S10e) te…

Not intending to start a storm here. Why does the author want an Android? The iPhone mini would do the job right? I have a iPhone mini for the same reasons of size, premium feel and price. It would be cool to hear what the founder of Pebble has to say about "why Android". Has he said it anywhere else?

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

> Big companies are drowning in market data. They know some people really, really want small phones. But it's a long-tail opportunity they're willfully ignoring I would argue that they don’t know what people want at all, since market data just reinforces previously held assumptions. For example if you surveyed people in 2006 what kind of phone they wanted, most consumers would probably ask for a better flip phone. It…

Apple has market data - they sold a premium small phone for two years. Rumors are that they will be discontinuing them this year.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I have given up: the iphone mini (which I own) is gargantuan. There are a few glimmers of hope around the edges. Palm was interesting but too small (the primary problem was the battery, not the screen size). Unihertz is doing some interesting stuff in the small phone arena, but their stuff is either too small and thick (the jelly) or too big (titan). Their styling is also a bit funky in a 90's tech vibe sort of way t…

I miss the iPhone 5. That was a great size and shape. Same width as the 4, just a bit longer of course.

The "1st gen" SE is the same size as the 5, still available from e.g. Amazon for $100–$200, and runs the current iOS very well if a little slowly.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I wonder if there isn't a third factor: 3. Android OEMs can't make a good small phone, even if there was the demand to produce it at scale Because of how efficient Apple's SoCs are compared to Snapdragons, Android phones typically have much larger batteries than iPhones while getting about the same battery life. Big battery requires a big phone. The occasional somewhat small Android phone (for example Galaxy S10e) te…

Not intending to start a storm here. Why does the author want an Android? The iPhone mini would do the job right? I have a iPhone mini for the same reasons of size, premium feel and price. It would be cool to hear what the founder of Pebble has to say about "why Android". Has he said it anywhere else?

From the website:

>[...] personally, after 6 months of iOS I am itching to get back to Android. Why? The notification system SUCKS on iOS compared to Android. It’s impossible to move files between apps. Hard to get any work done on it. Beautiful hardware though!

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Shameless plug for the Jelly 2. https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-2 It's not a "flagship" but it is fully featured - nothing spared - and half the size of my palm. The screen is just small enough to be too annoying to do anything really distracting on. I have gotten NOTHING but compliments on it since I started using it a month ago (on a reco I picked up here).

I also have a Jelly 2, I really like it and I used it as my main phone for a month.

The reason I switched back to my Samsung Galaxy is because I changed job and will need to use it for work, and frankly the Jelly is just too small to be efficient.

It is otherwise an amazing little phone.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I’m a long-time small phone Android user. But after the Pixel 5, I have not been able to find a suitable small Android replacement. The Pixel 6 is gigantic, and the Pixel 7 looks like it is also destined to be huge. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve resorted to using an iPhone Mini, biding my time and hoping desperately that some Android OEM would step up. But it’s increasingly clear that a small premium phone is not on t…

My Pixel 3 is just a bit bigger then the iPhone 13 Mini... works great with Lineage OS... might have to change the battery in a year though (not looking forward to it).

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I’m a long-time small phone Android user. But after the Pixel 5, I have not been able to find a suitable small Android replacement. The Pixel 6 is gigantic, and the Pixel 7 looks like it is also destined to be huge. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve resorted to using an iPhone Mini, biding my time and hoping desperately that some Android OEM would step up. But it’s increasingly clear that a small premium phone is not on t…

Why only aim for 4 hours of screen on time? I understand the battery will be smaller too but so is the screen. I'd hope to see a bit more. Also, remember that most people won't care about thickness so much especially if it's rugged enough to not need a case.

But anyway good luck with the project! I backed the first Pebble and I'll probably use Beeper once it's fully available. You have a history of delivering on your promises. I just want to wait a bit to see how this one turns out in detail.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I have a unihertz Atom XL. Pros: - Battery lasts for 3 days with my usage (browsing when not at my desk, whatsapp, a handful of calls, android auto) - Rugged / waterproof (IP68) - Fits nicely in your hand - 48 MP camera - not as good as Pixels, but good - Good dual SIM setup Cons: - Thick; probably mostly due to the battery. Doesn't bother me, but if you wear skinny jeans and carry your phone in your front pocket it'…

I had the Atom until AT&T said it wasn't compatible with their 5G forced switch over. Now I have the cheapest android they offer until I can find something else. I had an original Jelly but battery life was miserable.

You could also switch to T-mobile or Verizon. Though you probably already thought of that.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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That's a shame - I heard the 13 Mini had acceptable battery life. And for someone that doesn't make their phone their life that's especially surprising.

I don't make my phone my life, and the 12 Mini has enough battery for me. I charge it every other day, but I have to admit it feels it holds less charge than my old iPhone 8. I only use it for Whatsapp, bathroom break HN and a few calls a week. Everything else I do from my PC. Also, performance is great for me, I'm not planning on running games or k8s on my mobile. EDIT: looks like you're talking about the 13 mini, I…

Word on the street (and physical evidence of the larger battery in the 13 Mini) is a strong consensus that the 13 mini has better battery life than the 12 mini.

I've never heard anyone complain about the performance of the 13 mini before, maybe there's something funky going on with the OP's phone.

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