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Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by dhimes »

georgeecollins wrote: post #227
philistine wrote: post #103

What you’re describing is data hoarding. I pirate a ton too, but you know what I do with a movie or TV show after I’ve watched it? I delete it. Poof, gone. But it’s still in the most important dataset I have. My memory. To help with the metadata of my own memory, I write down a list of the films I’ve seen. I only keep the movies I really love and want to rewatch (Robocop). That TV show I just finished that was great…

I don't pirate, I pay for content, but I like to own a digital copy of music content. So I buy MP3s rather than subscribe to a service. It's probably strange-- and maybe dumb-- but I feel like in the long run I never know what will happen to a service in terms of how it may change in price or quality. If I own a CD or an MP3, I know I have what I want. It may not be rational. I know some people think I am crazy.

I do the same thing.

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by NikolaNovak »

Tyr42 wrote: post #203
NikolaNovak wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but there are I think a few assumptions there: 1. You need to set up NAS and downloading software - that is not as trivial or common as HN audience assumes :) 2. You need a reliable and safe source of torrents. They may be paid or invite only, or may be super scammy and unrealiable and mine crypto etc etc 3. How safe do you feel in your jurisdiction/location at running plain torrents. Here you get notices and…

With synology the NAS and torrent software is pretty plug and play? I boot it up, plug in some hard drives, and click yes a bunch and it's there now. Agree with 2 though.

(Note that this is perhaps magical thinking, but I would personally not be comfortable running torrents to "iffy" sites/locations/purposes, on the same primary storage array with my tax documents and family photos etc; my NAS is as local-network-only as humanly possible. That is a segregation and personal preference though, and does not detract from your main point)

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by Mo3 »

pirate-Loo6uoDu wrote: post #336
Mo3 wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again.. You are obviously free to do whatever you want, but hoarding data and then associating the source of the data with the cost of your data hoarding is totally illogical. Your personal expenses for hoarding data, or the practice of hoarding data, have nil correlation to piracy itself. To add to this at this point, > Streaming services still have significant service problems that need to be addressed. This connec…

>Your personal expenses for hoarding data have nil correlation to piracy itself. Yes, that's true. My point was that I'm already spending a lot of money to pirate, and that I would be spending that money to support the creators if something like steam existed. Not once did I say or even imply I was unhappy with that situation, not once did I imply that you needed to spend that kind of money in order to pirate. I simp…

> My point was that I'm already spending a lot of money to pirate

… okay then. Let’s leave it at that.

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by greenglass »

shabier wrote: post #333
greenglass wrote: post #255

Stop watching so much tv! Piracy is one thing, but wasting your life watching all of those “must have shows” makes it sound like your brain has been co-opted by the content producers. Maybe put down the remote and pick up a book?

> wasting your life watching all of those “must have shows” makes it sound like your brain has been co-opted by the content producers. >Maybe put down the remote and pick up a book? Isn't that the same thing?

Libraries are free so no. And, the selection is wider and better given the historical economics of literature vs streaming (steaming?) content production.

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Post by exikyut »

nunez wrote: post #330
philistine wrote: post #103

What you’re describing is data hoarding. I pirate a ton too, but you know what I do with a movie or TV show after I’ve watched it? I delete it. Poof, gone. But it’s still in the most important dataset I have. My memory. To help with the metadata of my own memory, I write down a list of the films I’ve seen. I only keep the movies I really love and want to rewatch (Robocop). That TV show I just finished that was great…

I am 100% against hoarding, but data hoarding makes a lot more sense to me. I was looking for an album by a small punk band called Straighten Things Out called "Dawn Of A New Hope". Loved this album; listened to it all of the time on Apple Music (where I discovered it). Went on a walk one day and tried to load it...and it was gone. I can't even find this album on eBay, and you can find everything there! "Milo Goes To…

*Yells at Google for a good 15 minutes*

...I'm a tad surprised that worked as well as it did:

1. https://vk.com/wall-112927118?w=wall-112927118_185 ("Download")

2. http://metalbootlegs08.blogspot.com/2016/10/descendents-milo... ("Official Website")

Oh, also - *hands you a vacuum cleaner that tends to eat things in case they disappear later* - maybe go wandering/exploring? These types of sites are incredibly fun yet even more transient.

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Post by dangerface »

bryans wrote: post #278
dangerface wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you have 5tb of mp3? Im the exact opposite I hoard all my video but stream all my music. Im curious why not use a streaming service for music? Is there a reason to use a streaming service for video but not music?

I'm definitely an edge case for music. I've been obsessed with metal since the mid-90s, and have downloaded quite literally every release. Unfortunately, the streaming services don't seem to care much about having a complete (or even particularly good) catalog of metal, so some of my favorite bands and albums don't exist on those platforms. This is made worse due to a significant portion of metal bands being off the…

Ah yes that makes a lot of sense. Its such a shame it feels like metal is a dead genera in the west it gets no mainstream coverage. The scandinavian countries seem to be the only ones keeping it alive but as you say its all fairly underground the only place I can find that stuff is bandcamp but then you need to know the bands.

Thanks for the link hopefully I can find a few new bands to listen too.

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Post by xtracto »

judge2020 wrote: post #261
moffkalast wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The interesting thing is that for gaming Gabe Newell has figured this out decades ago i.e. "piracy is an issue of service, not price" and today Steam fulfils practically all of those reasons you listed. All games in one store, offline play, hosting mods and support forums, cross-machine save sync, access even if the game gets removed from the store entirely later on, etc. GoG for example goes a step further with the…

> I wonder if streaming networks would have more success with a similar pay-to-own approach. https://moviesanywhere.com

Miracle Mile isn't in that service, while it is pretty much available via Piracy ( https://yts.mx/movies/miracle-mile-1988 )

Re: Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just paid for content

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Post by xtracto »

trh0awayman wrote: post #88

At least where I live in Europe, it's almost impossible to not pirate. The government has strict controls on media and so it's impossible to even get access to most movies. Netflix, Amazon Prime and other streaming sites have been completely neutered. HBO Go, Criterion, etc. are completely inaccessible. In the US, it's a different story. Everything outside of Karagarga is available to be streamed, or at least purchas…

I was trying to Listen to the album "Marching Out" by artist Yngwie Malmsteen. It is unavailable in Tidal, Spotify or Youtube Music both in the US and in Mexico. Spotify has it "indexed" [1] but you cannot actually play the full album.

The only way to stream it is through low quality Youtube rips. I've got the album in my mom's house on CD... it is stupid that I cannot listen to it in any of the 3 stream services I pay for.

[1] https://open.spotify.com/album/4gZ1yplfdbNfdh8DkBHWbM

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Post by rufus_foreman »

nunez wrote: post #330
philistine wrote: post #103

What you’re describing is data hoarding. I pirate a ton too, but you know what I do with a movie or TV show after I’ve watched it? I delete it. Poof, gone. But it’s still in the most important dataset I have. My memory. To help with the metadata of my own memory, I write down a list of the films I’ve seen. I only keep the movies I really love and want to rewatch (Robocop). That TV show I just finished that was great…

I am 100% against hoarding, but data hoarding makes a lot more sense to me. I was looking for an album by a small punk band called Straighten Things Out called "Dawn Of A New Hope". Loved this album; listened to it all of the time on Apple Music (where I discovered it). Went on a walk one day and tried to load it...and it was gone. I can't even find this album on eBay, and you can find everything there! "Milo Goes To…

>> "Milo Goes To College" by The Descendants, a more well-known pop punk band, was removed as well. Randomly, without warning.

Politically incorrect music tends to get sent down the memory hole.

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