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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini” So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space? --- I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consum…

>people just like big stuff I'm inclined to think that applies more to Americans than people generally. Europeans and Australians can be quite content with smaller vehicles, smaller properties, and quite frankly smaller lifestyles.

China loves the Pro Max - it outsold the Pro there [1], and my understanding (based largely on hearsay, so take it with a grain of salt) is that they generally love large phones over there.

1: https://www.thenationalnews.com/business/technology/2022/01/...

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I just made the switch from Android to iPhone, entirely because I wanted a small phone that still has a good camera and good battery life. If iPhone discontinues the mini or there's a small Android phone on the market that meets my needs, I'd switch back happily.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I used an Atom for a while, which had a ridiculously small 2.4" screen. One thing I realized is that the smaller you make the screen, the thicker you have to make the device in order to provide space for the battery. While a smaller screen does use less battery, it's not enough that you can avoid increasing thickness. I know that's a bit more extreme than the <6" mentioned in the article, but I think it still holds t…

I'd much rather have a smaller thicker phone than a larger thinner one. The fetish for making electronic devices ever thinner is another one that passes me by. In my book 'thinner = more fragile"

And, when it comes to 'pocketability' I find pockets generally trend to expand depth-wise to accommodate thicker items. I've yet to find a garment with pockets that expand length- or width-wise to accommodate larger items

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

#194
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So… there are tons of small Chinese Android phones. Why not get one of them, wipe it clean, and install whatever you want?

Are there really? It's not just the size, but also the weight: cheaper components have larger weight. At least for me that is a dealbreaker.

Then you want the display to be small but of high resolution (and quality!), so 1080 pixels in width is necessary to have at least 320 to 350 dpi. My Samsung A40, which I bought for 220€ in 2019. has 440dpi (with 1080 pixels width), and this is marvellous because I cannot see single pixels anymore.

Third reason is the processor. There are still enough cheap ones built-in, that cause stutter and pauses.

I don't want just a small phone, I want a nice and reasonably-priced small phone. It was sold for less than 250€, so even in smaller batches it should be possible to reach a 500€ mark.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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post #32

Shameless plug for the Jelly 2. https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-2 It's not a "flagship" but it is fully featured - nothing spared - and half the size of my palm. The screen is just small enough to be too annoying to do anything really distracting on. I have gotten NOTHING but compliments on it since I started using it a month ago (on a reco I picked up here).

Oh man, that thing is _adorable_ and the price is certainly right. (Unfortunately I am personally looking for something in between this and today's "phablets".)

Unihertz has some other phones in different sizes, like the ruggedized Atom L/XL with a 4" screen.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

#196

A problem is that even within the niche of small phones, not everybody has the same wishes. Compared to your ideal specifications, my wishes are: support for microSD card storage; battery that easily and reliably lasts a full day with moderate phone usage; fingerprint sensor, not necessarily on the power button; camera decent, not necessarily great (I don't care that much about low light performance, for example). I'…

> Missing microSD card support could be the major dealbreaker And for the other guy a 3.5mm jack and for a third a physical off switch and look at that we have too many dealbreaker features for the form factor. Power users tend to have more dealbreakers than the average consumer. Anecdotally, it seems power users prefer smaller phones. This might be what kills the small phone factor.

I disagree. I bet many average consumers would want a small phone for work, travel, etc.

IMHO vendors try not to sell small flagship phones so you have to buy a foldable phone, which is way more expensive.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

#197
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These "slow iPhone 13 mini" sales are more than all Google Pixel phones sold in a year. Think about that. I don't understand when did the ability to choose a product fitting your preferences become a bad thing on HackerNews and modern American perception. Why is being able to buy niche products somehow not a worthy thing to be desired?

I don't understand when did the ability to choose a product fitting your preferences become a bad thing on HackerNews Because so many on HN have been indoctrinated into the "scale at all costs" mentality. It demonstrates the difference between HN and the real world. On HN, if you can't serve a billion people, your product is niche. In the real world, billions of people earn a very nice living making niche products. I…

> In the real world, billions of people earn a very nice living making niche products.

But rarely something as expensive to create as a smart phone.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

#199
post #94

Wow, is sub 6" considered small nowadays? What have we done

My comment exactly. We've really defined "small" up! I'm still running my 1st get iPhone SE, because I've yet to see a phone that can replace it. With a 4 inch screen, I can just barely use it one-handed.
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