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Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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This looks cool. I just started using MindNode yesterday [0] which is a similar tool (although it takes a very different approach - it's more visual). I wasn't sure of the effectiveness of these sort of tools as I usually just use text files + Notability sketches but I have to say they are very useful in helping to structure thoughts better. I'm interested to try this. [0] https://www.mindnode.com/

Bonus is that Mindnode has a built in outliner view as well. I use Mindnode for this type of thing 99% of the time.

Another long time MindNode user here. I know the nested lists and map views are essentially two visualizations of the same structured data but my brain just finds the maps less thought-constraining. I end up with more creative paths in map view when I use it to plan.

Horses for courses I guess.

Bike looks neat though.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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I watched the movie on the linked website, but I really don't get what "fluid" editing is supposed to be and what problem it solves? (I've been using OmniOutliner for years and never missed something like described there)

If you don't see how that's fluid and why it's valuable then that feature isn't for you. But it's certainly unquestionably fluid unlike a lot of other trash apps.

Not recognizing what the word is supposed to mean in this context doesn't imply any of those things.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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post #65

I watched the movie on the linked website, but I really don't get what "fluid" editing is supposed to be and what problem it solves? (I've been using OmniOutliner for years and never missed something like described there)

If you don't see how that's fluid and why it's valuable then that feature isn't for you. But it's certainly unquestionably fluid unlike a lot of other trash apps.

What a great non answer

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Off topic and meta to HN: I had no idea you could do both a URL and a text submission, is this a recent change? I think this format is fantastic for Show HN threads.

I believe this changed a few months ago or so, and it's only available for Show HN submissions afaik. It's a small change but definitely a great improvement over the old way where you'd post a link and then add a comment.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Regarding the website: having a video embedded with zero control to mute or change it's audio volume is really insensitive UX. The annoying background music is not even necessary to actually get meaning from the video.

Sorry about that. I'm a one guy does many things. Maybe I missed on video sound, but it's tricky trying to make a text editor look interesting. I thought the music helped.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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This is an impressively well stripped down app. It's all I ever wanted from OmniOutliner (remember when it shipped with OS X?).

Unfortunately, I've been drawn in by the linking functionality in Roam/Logseq and cannot go back to a simple outliner, though this makes me want to.

I don't think I'm a fan of the animated cursor while typing. It somehow makes the typing feel slower, like it takes some physical effort for the cursor to push forward.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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post #84

Regarding the website: having a video embedded with zero control to mute or change it's audio volume is really insensitive UX. The annoying background music is not even necessary to actually get meaning from the video.

Sorry about that. I'm a one guy does many things. Maybe I missed on video sound, but it's tricky trying to make a text editor look interesting. I thought the music helped.

The music does sound interesting, but I also wanted to mute it. But at least there are some images later in the page.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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post #74

In particular I love these features: - "respects your computer's memory and battery" - "uses open file formats" - "is scriptable" Feels like we should also think about these kinds of things when we think about "organic" software. Kudos to the developer for these.

How much memory and battery do all the animation use?
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