Call me a curmudgeon, but I just use an editor and markdown for the same fluid outlining. I guess this is more marketed towards people who don't also fluidly use a markup/markdown syntax.
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#72This looks cool. I just started using MindNode yesterday [0] which is a similar tool (although it takes a very different approach - it's more visual). I wasn't sure of the effectiveness of these sort of tools as I usually just use text files + Notability sketches but I have to say they are very useful in helping to structure thoughts better. I'm interested to try this. [0] https://www.mindnode.com/
Bonus is that Mindnode has a built in outliner view as well. I use Mindnode for this type of thing 99% of the time.
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#73I've been using workflowy.com - looks VERY similar.
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#74In particular I love these features:
- "respects your computer's memory and battery"
- "uses open file formats"
- "is scriptable"
Feels like we should also think about these kinds of things when we think about "organic" software. Kudos to the developer for these.
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#75Speaking as a daily TaskPaper user, this looks great! I totally get why you're doing the things you're doing with this, implementation-wise, and what you're able to achieve because of it.
Having said that, you know very well what a tough sell it is the more general purpose a tool is, and this is very general purpose. I hope having it out there spurs some ideas around how the novel features of this infrastructure can be the basis for some more concrete and easier to market solutions.
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#76Workflowy and Logseq already provide these features. Am I missing something?
I honestly don't understand comments like this, you know it's ok to competition in this space?
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
For many of us, that's a positive.
Could be, for not for $37. There are other, equally basic for $0 or $10.
None equally integrated into the macOS system for that price though. Omnioutliner (the typical go-to native Mac outliner) is more than double.
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#78Call me a curmudgeon, but I just use an editor and markdown for the same fluid outlining. I guess this is more marketed towards people who don't also fluidly use a markup/markdown syntax.
This nice think outliners can do that editors generally can't do is Focus In / Out. Maybe not important for your thought process, but for me I really like being about to start new on a fresh "page", while still being in the same document.
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#79I watched the movie on the linked website, but I really don't get what "fluid" editing is supposed to be and what problem it solves? (I've been using OmniOutliner for years and never missed something like described there)
I made a tiny screencast showing the big difference: https://imgur.com/a/u1QTns6
OmniOutliner feels like it has a separate text field for each node. Bike feels like a text editor when you're editing a document with nodes, which to me is more natural.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is available here: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bike-outliner/id1588292384?mt=... Mac App Store version is subscription based. I know many people don't like that, that's why my direct download version is not subscription based... but for Mac App Store upgrades are a pain/impossible. So subscription.
This is excellent . When I searched for it on the App Store via “bike” I was unable to find it. I’ll subscribe if it means you can maybe buy App Store ads for keywords like bike for better visibility.
Yeah, Bike's not a very good name for searches, but it's a good name for what the app intends to be.